Message from @nachik

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2020-11-23 23:45:26 UTC  

Looking backward and trying to model the past is just motivated reasoning.

2020-11-23 23:46:14 UTC  

Another part of the problem is that the culture of the Right and Left are anathema and can never be resolved.

2020-11-23 23:46:27 UTC  

@DrSammyD man this video is _long_ haha

2020-11-23 23:46:36 UTC  

Indeed

2020-11-23 23:47:57 UTC  

That is a very glass half empty way to look at it... You could just as easily say that all of the claims of a concerted, coordinated conspiratorial effort to affect the election have so far not been credible - pointing more to a fair election despite pre-election predictions to the contrary.

2020-11-23 23:48:01 UTC  

I am also curious what happened with the Phily Mafia boss that offered to turn states evidence about the election.

2020-11-23 23:49:46 UTC  

I have decided to look at any claims with a jaundiced eye until I see the court filings. People have said a lot of unsubstantiated crazy stuff so far, which half the country so desperately wants to believe.

2020-11-23 23:50:09 UTC  

Where did you hear this from?

2020-11-23 23:51:06 UTC  

@TaLoN132 There are two courts in session. In the court of law, one is innocent until proven guilty. But in the Court of Public Opinion, as under UCMJ, one is guilty until proven innocent.

Under UCMJ, being guilty until proven innocent means public doubt is always that you could be innocent but couldn't prove it. While in the Innocent first approach the public believes everyone is OJ - you were guilty and they couldn't prove it.

2020-11-23 23:51:13 UTC  

I’m in London England...watching what is taking place makes me feel like I’m taking crazy pills!

2020-11-23 23:51:28 UTC  

@realz Probably NTD.

2020-11-23 23:52:07 UTC  

mmk

2020-11-23 23:52:19 UTC  

I wouldn't trust that it happened just because NTD reported on it

2020-11-23 23:53:13 UTC  

haha

2020-11-23 23:53:20 UTC  

I'm in London as well and I don't think things are any saner around here currently

2020-11-23 23:53:35 UTC  

what's going on there

2020-11-23 23:54:06 UTC  

@realz I said curious what happened to. There was one blurb in the news in the mid 90's about Clinton getting a massive donation from the PRC through a SEA company after letting them have satellite tech important to our national security. That happened. But the report of it simply disappeared.

2020-11-23 23:54:17 UTC  

Every one of those claims have not stood up under scrutiny, so far, once the claims and affidavits have been filed.... with one exception. I find Susan Voyles credible, but I think there are possible reasonable explanations for what she attested to. Even if what she described was found to be true - at most it reveals less than a 100 ballots being affected and provides a reason to explore if it was more widespread. Other than her, I don't think any of the others are believable.

2020-11-23 23:54:20 UTC  

we have a buffoon PM who claims to be a libertarian and is actually the most authoritarian PM in history

2020-11-23 23:54:24 UTC  

So far...

2020-11-23 23:54:42 UTC  

and a Pakistani mayor who loathes Britain

2020-11-23 23:54:52 UTC  

@nachik That would be my assessment as well, and I am watching from Missouri.

2020-11-23 23:55:02 UTC  

Define loathe

2020-11-23 23:55:17 UTC  

er who's the PM now?

2020-11-23 23:55:28 UTC  

Bojo (Boris Johnson)

2020-11-23 23:55:32 UTC  

mmm

2020-11-23 23:55:37 UTC  

he claims to be libertarian ? 👀

2020-11-23 23:55:38 UTC  

Even so... the only one that matters is the court of law.

2020-11-23 23:55:48 UTC  

Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson

2020-11-23 23:55:56 UTC  

does that mean the same thing that libertarian means in the US?

2020-11-23 23:56:07 UTC  

yea he's a fraud

2020-11-23 23:56:25 UTC  

because of how he's handling Covid?

2020-11-23 23:56:28 UTC  

not going to derail this from <#771201221145919499> though (Robert nearly starting)

2020-11-23 23:56:37 UTC  

omg its 7

2020-11-23 23:56:37 UTC  

Boris Johnson seems to be a fair weather friend - at least the way he is portrayed here. Is that accurate?

2020-11-23 23:57:23 UTC  

@TaLoN132 When the pitchforks and torches come out, the opinion of the court of law does not matter.

2020-11-23 23:57:26 UTC  

ttyl

2020-11-23 23:57:27 UTC  

What do you mean by loathe @nachik

2020-11-23 23:58:06 UTC  

Anarchy here!

2020-11-23 23:58:07 UTC  

If it gets to that point, there really is none any more...

2020-11-23 23:58:35 UTC  

Genghis Khan hates everything British @james j