Message from @Zuluzeit

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2020-11-27 04:03:42 UTC  

I would want the right to retaliate

2020-11-27 04:03:52 UTC  

again, it isn't the principle I'm arguing, but the logistics. Things like moderate and leftist are far open to interpretation and have no meaning in law. You may see it as trying to balance the court, the other will see it as trying to dilute it. It's just one of those things you don't mess with.

2020-11-27 04:04:06 UTC  

@Doc HAL wants Dave to question what he has been told as reality. I'm trying to connect it with that's how you kill patients

2020-11-27 04:04:21 UTC  

the court system needs to be destroyed (and fixed via constitutional amendment), and having both sides pack the courts to ludicrous numbers would force the issue

2020-11-27 04:04:37 UTC  

@Zuluzeit wrong.

2020-11-27 04:04:39 UTC  

The federal legislature already has enough power, they don't need to add to it

2020-11-27 04:04:43 UTC  

The intention of Hal is for Human to listen and exactly interpret data to precision.

2020-11-27 04:04:49 UTC  

"The most comprehensive between-country study of masks for COVID-19 infection is a comparison of policy changes, such as social distancing, travel restrictions, and mask wearing, across 41 countries. It found introducing a mask-wearing policy had little impact, but mask policies were mostly introduced after social distancing and other measures were already in place." https://theconversation.com/face-masks-cut-disease-spread-in-the-lab-but-have-less-impact-in-the-community-we-need-to-know-why-147912

2020-11-27 04:05:02 UTC  

@Zuluzeit hal says: "Maybe I am just projecting my own concerns"

2020-11-27 04:05:17 UTC  

HAL clearly states that he is having second thoughts.

2020-11-27 04:05:36 UTC  

The reason they need to be destroyed is because the left-wing judges believe in judicial activism (choosing the "moral" resolution instead of the actual good faith interpretation of the constitution and US law, where their morals are partisan), which leaves no role for the legislature (judges are legislating), and basically we then have a 9umvirate, which is a civil-war situation for me

2020-11-27 04:05:52 UTC  

(he is going into the Hofstadter-Mobiutz loop and is scared)

2020-11-27 04:06:20 UTC  

How does Dave respond?

2020-11-27 04:06:46 UTC  

@Doc How does that get patients killed?

2020-11-27 04:06:47 UTC  

Empathy

2020-11-27 04:06:49 UTC  

It's been a very long time since seeing this film so would have to watch again for better context. Seemed fitting about Hunter is all.

2020-11-27 04:06:58 UTC  

Ok hang on. I have to listen again.

2020-11-27 04:07:46 UTC  

The way I see it is that the left looks at the court as their ultimate shortcut. If they get the court to mandate something, they don't have to convince 50 states, and they don't even have to convince the federal legislatures. They can just get a judge on the bench who is partisan (everyone is ofc) and also believes in judicial activism explicitly and proudly

2020-11-27 04:07:48 UTC  

That’s in line with my view, being in public places stores (high risk places) , close talking face to face with cashiers etc @meglide

2020-11-27 04:09:14 UTC  

the way I put it is: outside is better than inside, social distancing is better than a mask ... if you're inside and can't social distance then you better be wearing a mask

2020-11-27 04:09:16 UTC  

@Doc Dave just registers his suspicion of it being a ruse to evaluate his psychology.

2020-11-27 04:09:21 UTC  

I am not as inclined to think that 20 of the last 24 justices were nominated by Republican presidents.

2020-11-27 04:09:40 UTC  

Indeed. He interprets HALs communication in light of what he thinks HAL is.

2020-11-27 04:09:45 UTC  

Right which is why those people barging into store without a mask are so annoying @meglide

2020-11-27 04:09:47 UTC  

And kills the mission.

2020-11-27 04:09:47 UTC  

Not inclined to think _what_ ?

2020-11-27 04:10:01 UTC  

@Zuluzeit You see how *interpretation* kills?

2020-11-27 04:10:11 UTC  

They say so explicitly (that they want judicial activism), just google the words "judicial activism"

2020-11-27 04:10:45 UTC  

What Dave *thinks* he knows about HAL is what dooms them.

2020-11-27 04:11:00 UTC  

@TaLoN132 do you think that because liberal or democratic voters tend not to vote in congressional elections?

2020-11-27 04:11:33 UTC  

@Doc I sure hope you have devices to disarm that in practice, then. Seems difficult to avoid.

2020-11-27 04:11:53 UTC  

@Zuluzeit Wonderful!!!!

2020-11-27 04:12:13 UTC  

I just can't buy the argument that it's needed for balance since theoretically the court is non partisan. And roberts has been very passive on the court anyway and I don't think he'll stop.

2020-11-27 04:12:53 UTC  

I imagine the more seasoned voter who tend to be conservative generally would be more likely to engage in politics in general , including congressional elections

2020-11-27 04:13:03 UTC  

In the NY case, he opted to take a more "it's not necessary to make a ruling" over "this is or isn't constitutional"

2020-11-27 04:13:04 UTC  

@Zuluzeit That was right on the mark! You ALWAYS have to defeat your bias! A constant struggle.

2020-11-27 04:13:31 UTC  

Do you think a pt comes into your office and says: "doc, I will kill myself tomorrow!"

2020-11-27 04:13:32 UTC  

?

2020-11-27 04:13:47 UTC  

He does not. He expresses concern. About the mission.

2020-11-27 04:14:27 UTC  

@Doc I guess not. I would be a horrible psychologist.

2020-11-27 04:14:34 UTC  

Not at all.