Message from @Doc

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2020-11-27 04:06:49 UTC  

It's been a very long time since seeing this film so would have to watch again for better context. Seemed fitting about Hunter is all.

2020-11-27 04:06:58 UTC  

Ok hang on. I have to listen again.

2020-11-27 04:07:46 UTC  

The way I see it is that the left looks at the court as their ultimate shortcut. If they get the court to mandate something, they don't have to convince 50 states, and they don't even have to convince the federal legislatures. They can just get a judge on the bench who is partisan (everyone is ofc) and also believes in judicial activism explicitly and proudly

2020-11-27 04:07:48 UTC  

That’s in line with my view, being in public places stores (high risk places) , close talking face to face with cashiers etc @meglide

2020-11-27 04:09:14 UTC  

the way I put it is: outside is better than inside, social distancing is better than a mask ... if you're inside and can't social distance then you better be wearing a mask

2020-11-27 04:09:16 UTC  

@Doc Dave just registers his suspicion of it being a ruse to evaluate his psychology.

2020-11-27 04:09:21 UTC  

I am not as inclined to think that 20 of the last 24 justices were nominated by Republican presidents.

2020-11-27 04:09:40 UTC  

Indeed. He interprets HALs communication in light of what he thinks HAL is.

2020-11-27 04:09:45 UTC  

Right which is why those people barging into store without a mask are so annoying @meglide

2020-11-27 04:09:47 UTC  

And kills the mission.

2020-11-27 04:09:47 UTC  

Not inclined to think _what_ ?

2020-11-27 04:10:01 UTC  

@Zuluzeit You see how *interpretation* kills?

2020-11-27 04:10:11 UTC  

They say so explicitly (that they want judicial activism), just google the words "judicial activism"

2020-11-27 04:10:45 UTC  

What Dave *thinks* he knows about HAL is what dooms them.

2020-11-27 04:11:00 UTC  

@TaLoN132 do you think that because liberal or democratic voters tend not to vote in congressional elections?

2020-11-27 04:11:33 UTC  

@Doc I sure hope you have devices to disarm that in practice, then. Seems difficult to avoid.

2020-11-27 04:11:53 UTC  

@Zuluzeit Wonderful!!!!

2020-11-27 04:12:13 UTC  

I just can't buy the argument that it's needed for balance since theoretically the court is non partisan. And roberts has been very passive on the court anyway and I don't think he'll stop.

2020-11-27 04:12:53 UTC  

I imagine the more seasoned voter who tend to be conservative generally would be more likely to engage in politics in general , including congressional elections

2020-11-27 04:13:03 UTC  

In the NY case, he opted to take a more "it's not necessary to make a ruling" over "this is or isn't constitutional"

2020-11-27 04:13:04 UTC  

@Zuluzeit That was right on the mark! You ALWAYS have to defeat your bias! A constant struggle.

2020-11-27 04:13:31 UTC  

Do you think a pt comes into your office and says: "doc, I will kill myself tomorrow!"

2020-11-27 04:13:32 UTC  

?

2020-11-27 04:13:47 UTC  

He does not. He expresses concern. About the mission.

2020-11-27 04:14:27 UTC  

@Doc I guess not. I would be a horrible psychologist.

2020-11-27 04:14:34 UTC  

Not at all.

2020-11-27 04:14:49 UTC  

You just understood what I am struggling to get my juniors to understand.

2020-11-27 04:14:53 UTC  

To me it sounds like the 2 justice solution is a placation strategy over a necessity

2020-11-27 04:15:09 UTC  

@Zuluzeit wanna test that? Answer for Dave?

2020-11-27 04:16:22 UTC  

now we have a scotus discussion going on ... couldn't we put that in <#771201281024458802> ?

2020-11-27 04:16:26 UTC  

Zulu, I might be projecting my own concern here, but are you having second thoughts about this life?

2020-11-27 04:17:08 UTC  

Republicans will not pack the court though Democrats absolutely will eroding any trust in our Democratic process not only to Amercian citizens but also our dealings abroad...more bans of American think tanks, councils, forums, NGOs, ect. The world is in an era of contraction and with the dark side of US corruption exposed, a fallacy internationally as the intera aspect is now alienating. A coup in someone elses yard can always be justified, but a coup within your own ranks? Detrimental.

2020-11-27 04:17:39 UTC  

A balancing out to void our previous hypocrisy seems fair @inwa

2020-11-27 04:17:41 UTC  

@Doc Some years ago, I had a therapist dance around that very issue for like 20 minutes. Finally I stopped playing the game and just just confronted it outright. She seemed a little miffed, if anything...but maybe I was just gloating in the moment for having figured it out.

2020-11-27 04:17:57 UTC  

!

2020-11-27 04:18:02 UTC  

Packing the courts would be overdoing it @inwa

2020-11-27 04:18:23 UTC  

@Zuluzeit That therapist was probably either dumber or less brave than you. Very unbecoming for a therapist.

2020-11-27 04:18:30 UTC  

and relevant to the scotus discussion is that fact that the Democrats can only pack the court if they control both houses of Congress and the Presidency in order to change the number ... and if they might very well control both houses if Trump fanatics in GA get their way https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/26/trump-conspiracies-georgia-senate-440776

2020-11-27 04:18:44 UTC  

Amazing

2020-11-27 04:18:47 UTC  

How do you know Republicans will not pack the courts in retaliation ?