Message from @Zuluzeit
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From the ruling, *" Specifically, pursuant to Article XI, Section 1, a proposed constitutional amendment must be approved by a majority vote of the members of both the Pennsylvania House of Representatives and Senate in two consecutive legislative sessions, then the proposed amendment must be published for three months ahead of the next general election in two newspapers in each county, and finally it must be submitted to the qualified electors as a ballot question in the next general election and approved by a majority of those voting on the amendment"*
That statute makes it seem that this amendment wouldn't take effect until the 2024 GE as the 2020 GE would have certified the amendment
Right two legislative sessions where the electors vote
Not electors. The State House and Senate. Unless they are the electors
Submitted to qualified electors
The ruling also says that the complaint seems to assert that this is a first step in trying to get to universal mail-in voting, which is a slippery slope argument that seems odd, in this context. If it is unconstitutional, this shouldn't matter.
Did Pennsylvania even have universal mail in voting
I thought you still had to request a ballot
@james j I think qualified electors is lawyer-speak for registered voters.
I’ll have to watch the rekita video again , I don’t think this process requires citizen voters
@james j *"Petitionersallege that mail-in voting in the form implemented through Act 77 is an attempt by the legislature to fundamentally overhaul the Pennsylvania voting system and permit universal, no-excuse, mail-in voting absent any constitutional authority. "*
I'm not sure why that is needed to make their case.
Hm
Either way the Burden can’t fall on voters that voted in good faith
That's why it will be interesting to see how this goes...
@james j That was the fundamental argument from the very beginning. It needs to be tampering in order to jettison the will of the people.
If they did not act to enfranchise voters in the South who were suppressed from voting (in the past), how can they disenfranchise voters today that voted in good faith and would likely have voted in-person if this was not available to them?
I haven't had time to look into this to know what it means... On the surface, it would appear that they are asserting that there are some really dumb criminals in NV. 😄
Okay I see so they didn’t put it on the ballot in 2019 so it couldn’t pass @TaLoN132
My high school Health teacher told me that I was impressed by my own verbosity. He may have had a point.
So it does have to be voted on by the general people
Hahaha I love it though. Makes it clear.
Finally a group that respects eachother and has honest discussion...
@andrasol, you just advanced to level 4!
Interesting... seems like a good idea to find ways to make it easier for out Military to vote. Did this go anywhere?
We try... Thank you. New here?
New to the discord. Have been following everything since the blm stuff
I follow this, barnes, viva, pool, ... everyday while moving 20 tons of product at work each day
And do a dutch weekly update in vlog about the US
@james j and I had an interesting conversation last night with a Q zealot and a British Anarchist - both college aged. It was... interesting?
Welcome... Jump right in.
I like to listen. And think.
I am a foreigner. So the chance of me knowing something you guys dont is slim
It's hard to piece conversations back together after the fact.
I am bummed about missing the side conversation that was interwoven with it. The virus stuff is too dry/technical for me.
I was reading through the MI Powell filings and I am noticing a pattern, but I haven't fully formed my opinion. It appears that some of the "expert" witnesses were asked to evaluate the plausibility of the assertions of other witnesses - as opposed to conducting their own independent analysis. At least, that's how it reads on the surface. I think that changes how they should be weighted, in my opinion. In other words, it's not like all of Powell's "experts" came to their conclusions independently of each other and they do not appear to have worked on them together. Like I said, this is preliminary, so I thought I would put it out there to see if others were seeing it the same way or not.
I predict those 'experts' will be duly flayed.