Message from @Maw

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2020-12-01 22:09:35 UTC  

this is why revolutions fail to change anything for the better

2020-12-01 22:09:37 UTC  

Ok are you being obtuse or do you really not see the point im making?

2020-12-01 22:09:38 UTC  

@ImNotGas again based on your analysis of guliani

2020-12-01 22:09:41 UTC  

Thats Directive 51 I mentioned above

2020-12-01 22:09:48 UTC  

Military should always remain apolitical

2020-12-01 22:09:51 UTC  

I think people are overexaggerating the political slant of judges and it's not great for the country

2020-12-01 22:09:59 UTC  

please give an example of his behavior that would warrant pardon seeking

2020-12-01 22:10:08 UTC  

Not all that have broken a law are justifiable for punishment.

2020-12-01 22:10:28 UTC  

I just want a simple yes or no based on your own analysis of gulianni, what is your answer to the question of likely hood that this occurred , not based on the article but based on everything you have learned about guliani @ImNotGas

2020-12-01 22:10:29 UTC  

youve yet to provide an allegation of a crime

2020-12-01 22:10:44 UTC  

I want Trump to fight tooth and nail on these claims, just because I want to see how far down the rabbit hole goes, but imposing martial law is just asinine

2020-12-01 22:10:48 UTC  

When the military gets involved in politics, you end up with Turkey.

2020-12-01 22:10:49 UTC  

@Whithers I’m asking a simple opinion question

2020-12-01 22:10:57 UTC  

I don't want to end up like Turkey. kthx.

2020-12-01 22:11:07 UTC  

@AdamS The military ought to remain apolitical but it will not. It is comprised of humans and they are a political species.

2020-12-01 22:11:08 UTC  

@james j right i cant answer that question if i dont have anything to judge him on, is there anything close to a crime that he has done?

2020-12-01 22:11:16 UTC  

Turkey has lots of cats.

2020-12-01 22:11:33 UTC  

@james j do you have a single reference that i could look at? or are we just going to play its possible he did something game?

2020-12-01 22:11:33 UTC  

That's essentially an ad-hom argument. You can't dismiss every point by attacking the source. At some point, a fact is a fact. In this case, they cite the source of the numbers.

2020-12-01 22:11:37 UTC  

One would hope they abide by the laws at least.

2020-12-01 22:11:59 UTC  

I'm pretty sure the military is unable to get involved due to numerous reasons.

2020-12-01 22:12:08 UTC  

When the founder of the KGB was asked why he had Lenin assassinated, he replied, "who needs revolutionaries after the revolution is won?"

2020-12-01 22:12:25 UTC  

Hasn't the military been involved since Trump started replacing everyone in the Pentagon

2020-12-01 22:12:28 UTC  

@AdamS In my experience, they will cover by use of law where possible and find a patsy where admissable.

2020-12-01 22:12:37 UTC  
2020-12-01 22:12:43 UTC  

@ImNotGas I just want a simple yes or no based on what you know. It’s a easy question. Just say no if you don’t think it’s likely based on what you know or yes based on what you know

2020-12-01 22:13:13 UTC  

Wasnt it Rob Mueller and Don Rumsfeld who lied to the American public about there being weapons of mass destruction in Iraq? Back in 2001?

2020-12-01 22:13:22 UTC  

@james j i think you can figure it out for yourself smart guy

2020-12-01 22:13:30 UTC  

Yes

2020-12-01 22:13:38 UTC  

@Maw The military ought not get involved unless compelled by their oath. That will become the key question at some point. And that will mean civil war is inevitable at that point.

2020-12-01 22:13:45 UTC  

> Hasn't the military been involved since Trump started replacing everyone in the Pentagon
@Dedkraken How dare you suggest that's exactly what one should expect from someone 'leaving his options open' to sieze power.

2020-12-01 22:13:47 UTC  

Very true.

2020-12-01 22:14:06 UTC  

@ImNotGas I just want to see if you are willing to answer a question directly , lots of gish galloping for a simple question that I guess needed multiple clarifications

2020-12-01 22:14:33 UTC  

its not a simple question because i dont know what behavior im supposed to be jduging

2020-12-01 22:14:42 UTC  

We don't talk about civil war here, nor really entertain the idea. It's dangerous discussion that is 1) Not useful and 2) Produces results further distancing people from one another.

2020-12-01 22:14:49 UTC  

"YEs or no do you believe something possibly happened?"

2020-12-01 22:14:52 UTC  

the hell kind of question is that

2020-12-01 22:14:55 UTC  

But to be fair the CIA had previously supplied Iraq with weapons and didn't know where they went...

2020-12-01 22:15:21 UTC  

@Adam135 Not exactly. The only nation that didn't think Iraq had WMD was France - and well, no one trusted French intelligence. It would have helped if Hussein had not been bluffing about their development and use as a deterrent to the aggression of his neighbors.

2020-12-01 22:15:45 UTC  

After Borat I'm sure Guiliani done some crap 🤣