@AdamS They didn't think it prudent to warn the rest of the world when all they had was China saying "Hey guys, no evidence it's airborne. 😉

China then proceeded to buy EVERYONE'S PPE in mass.

So we were #$@!ed when it was found out it was airborne.

Yes! That was my point....all this finger-pointing at Trump is null. It was going around long before we knew.

Oh shiiit

Didn't even know about that bit.

Also they wanted to hedge their own financial virus related issues, by spreading the love.

Yep. WHO sucks.

Yes, they did this to the UK/AU/CA/US.

I swear I got that October 19. We all got sick after traveling from Japan. Who knows.

Then resold defective PPE to these places at hiked costs.

This is not true, China produces most of the worlds PPE. The US continued to sell PPE when it was required at home. Why would China buy anyone’s PPE?

I would add, any an unelected bureaucracy should never be tolerated without question.

@AdamS This is in fact true.

I don't know... I feel like Bush 43 owned his mistakes. I've heard Obama discuss his. Maybe it's a post-presidency reflection. I can't remember exactly.

To be fair they did

They wiped Australia out

Defective PPE they sold, yes.

@Corndog a contingent election has no grounds , all the cases Trump has put forth have failed and you can send me the docket of any pending cases. You are describing the possible routes for trump which is available for any president that wants to push the issue. It’s just a hope of what could happen and has abandoned any pretense of trying to justify any real fraud or malfeasance in the election process it self. This was always the plan to just make things up and build support in the base. That’s it

Also the fact (Yes Fact, I can prove it to you) that China modified the Sars-Cov-2 with gain of function research doesn't help things.

But I don’t remember China buying PPE

https://globalnews.ca/news/6858818/coronavirus-china-united-front-canada-protective-equipment-shortage/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/isabeltogoh/2020/05/04/china-covered-up-coronavirus-to-hoard-medical-supplies-dhs-report-finds/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/us-sent-millions-of-face-masks-to-china-early-this-year-ignoring-pandemic-warning-signs/2020/04/18/aaccf54a-7ff5-11ea-8013-1b6da0e4a2b7_story.html https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2020/04/02/us-exports-masks-ppe-china-surged-early-phase-coronavirus/5109747002/ https://www.outlookindia.com/website/story/world-news-china-not-only-hoarding-ppe-but-also-selling-at-high-price-white-house-official/351143 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/ppe-import-china-shortage-1.5552426

The CCP was running a PPE purchasing operation all over the world.

Well you weren't paying attention clearly.

For alcoholism or deploying troops in Iraq with Bush?

So the us was selling PPE to China during the pandemic, why is that China’s fault? And how is that not a failure in response?

Before we knew

Because they intentionally withheld information from everyone.

By saying there is no evidence of human-to-human transmission.

So our intelligence agencies were sleeping?

Always

Who warned Taiwan? And New Zealand, South Korea? @Maw

remember Trump doesn't trust them

Less so than our media at least.

Doctors inside China

https://www.forbes.com/sites/isabeltogoh/2020/05/04/china-covered-up-coronavirus-to-hoard-medical-supplies-dhs-report-finds/?sh=5fcf13d51dba My dude, Forbes even posted this stuff.

Literally a DHS report.

Go nuts.

"The report by the Department of Homeland Security, seen by the Associated Press, concluded that China downplayed how serious the novel coronavirus outbreak was, in order to import more medical supplies and export less."

But we knew China was covering it up, it was all over Twitter....how did that stop us from acting?

I never heard Obama talk at length about never declaring Flint Michigan a disaster zone despite how desperately people needed it, nor for killing an American after waiting till he arrived in Yemen because his father was suspected of being a terrorist.