Hahaha

I dont know what else to call a court case without merit, evidence, specific accusations or standing than baseless

@Dedkraken, you just advanced to level 28!

Venting and costly

@Zuluzeit @Beth 🖕

I believe Texas argument was misplaced. It was about the Electors Clause in the US Constitution and the "Plenary" Powers the US Constitution gives them. That Power is not subject to Review or Interpretation by the State Executive or Judicial Branches. It is only subject to Review by the US Supreme Court because it is a US Constitutional Question. State Law or Process of Laws has nothing to do with the Electors Clause.

😂 hiya love 🖕🏼

lol... I never get to flip folks off... 😂

It’s great 😂

@Dedkraken It is not as if similar things have not been done before, in that case taking four months https://www.nytimes.com/1994/02/19/us/vote-fraud-ruling-shifts-pennsylvania-senate.html

Lmao love that one

Hahaha me too

Should have added Ricky Jay and Penn and Teller from the jump.

That's crazy.... no one is talking about this.... and it's even more crazy that this is on the New York Times site.. lol

Texas case was intended to set precedent for a ruling of no bueno on filings from Democrats in the future. Long game imo.

Again... they have done the footwork... if you mean Trump Legal Team. They have done everything possible so far as I can see...

But what we cannot do is get into a situation or set a precedent where anytime a candidate is a sore loser and wants to challenge the results we go through this type circus. Its dangerous to the democracy itself.

Trump team certainly didnt help themselves and their credibility by screaming fraud to every TV camera they could find and allege a giant conspiracy involving everyone from Republican Secs of States, Biden, the dog catcher and long dead dictators but then when they are in court they say "this is not a fraud case" and "we are not saying that anyone stole the election".

Its all for show. For Trump its a way to keep his base all fired up and donate their well over 200 Million so they can pay off his debt. And then of course with those legions of Cult of Trump members behind him he becomes a king maker in Republican politics for years to come
"Oh, so RNC you want me to endorse X... well it will cost ya. Oh, you won't pay my price...... one sec. Hey Donnie Jr, get ready to run for president."

@Cali La La exactly

Are there any cases from the past where people were charged with election fraud and ballots were not found on the bed or someone didn't rat someone else out?@Zuluzeit @Cali La La @SoonMrWick

Nope of course not @busillis ... which is an excellent point

Get a room

> Are there any cases from the past where people were charged with election fraud and ballots were not found on the bed or someone didn't rat someone else out?@Zuluzeit @Cali La La @SoonMrWick
@busillis Except for the ones where people just made an overwhelming gish gallop of claims in the hope that it would impress people, I'm not aware of any.

Well.... yeah I agree but the State do get to make up their own rules (to an extent) on how those electors are chosen... but its so minor as to be splitting hairs, so yes I agree with you on that

This is kind of what our legal system is built for, just saying. This is why I think it's a good thing that Rittenhouse is going through the motions and eventually to trial.

I think those are two different issues. A criminal defendant is not using the court system to further his criminal agenda.

But that is exactly what Trump is doing....

Changing 1700 votes is not similar to invalidating millions upon millions of votes across 4 states 🤔

I'm digging on selfpinging. Almost as good as the real thing.

To some people, they would say that's what Biden is doing.

How is Trump a defendant?

He isn't that is just my point

.....except the "victim" testimony was completely detached from recorded reality. https://youtu.be/gwpvS4wN5cU

But I put that in that room.

@SoonMrWick, you just advanced to level 7!

Yes, and? The state is prosecuting Kyle.

It is a Nuance in Constitutional Law, I will admit. That is why the Supreme Court should have taken the Case. Argue the Theory in a Hearing for Summary Judgment.

And honestly its never been the courts I was worried about with Trump. Its obvious he was going to lose. But his contacting the State Legislatures and trying to strong arm them into not certifying the counties where Biden won. Or throw out entire States where Biden won, not because any court found fraud or illegality but just because he says so...

That is the Sedition I am referring to

Do you know what the public would think right now if Kyle weren't going through the criminal justice system?

This is one of the things that frustrates @Zuluzeit to no end. @Zuluzeit has a low tolerance for hollow pageantry, although @Zuluzeit understands the utility of it.

Contacting state legislators is something else entirely, and I agree it's not a good thing.

Yeah the candidates arent supposed to be getting the people running the election to fix it for then. The level of abuse Trump took this to is despicable and despotic.

I don't mean to say they aren't handling it properly in court. I'm saying the public has their version of what happened. So let them say it and show it. But COME ON with the mile long coincidences/convenient decisions. Ex. Georgia not being able to show the chain of custody until January 19th, 2021?

He was calling state and national Congress. Calling governors. Calling local folks like in the wayne county deal. Calling on people to support the Texas lawsuit.