Dumb people.

I'm reading a book on the Alt-Right, and get this: they say that paleoconservatives believe in _anti-Americanism_ and a radical rejection of liberal democracy

@Salo Saloson Angie nagle's book?

No, T. J. Main's book

just got published last year... it's less than impressive. Any of us could've written this crap better

Man, I forgot Pegida started in late 2014. I feel old! Taking a trip down Nationalism's memory lane is a trip and a half

https://www.murrayledger.com/news/white-nationalist-flyers-removed-from-msu-campus/article_75dee946-1ab7-11e9-a27f-13e3d62fbacf.html

another college isn't happy to have us around

Looks like the locals will be aware of IE in that area, good. Then more crypto-travelers will be emboldened to perhaps make online inquiries about us.

The "white nationalist" ad homenim rolls of the back at this point. With the receiving server being as busy as it has been it seems that the buzzword journalism is having little negative effect on our optics power level.

eh

it's not really an ad hominem

it's a fair description, just not one with the best optics

Not to us perhaps it the way they are using it with the intent to insult us rather than to explain our views or position.

I don't think calling us "white nationalists" is done with malicious intent

I agree the term White Nationalist is a fair descriptor but the public will see it as "muh skinheads" etc.

Ya I agree with that to a large extent

I'm reminded of a video I saw about the Volkisch community in Germany where the words "right wing extremists" & "was also done while a certain historical figure from the 1930-40s" was used 1400 times in 15 minutes.

https://youtu.be/Y6ZqaZ8PMNU

This "German" blonde/blue Marxist mouthpiece, goes on about how the Volkisch people believe in fitness & traditional values & minding their own business & how it's "spreading secretly throughout Europe". It's kind of a bit of good press for them though.

lol

I totally understand why people don't like "white nationalist"

groups that used it in the past earned themselves a bad reputation

I hope some day we can reclaim the term, since there's nothing inherently wrong with it and it's a pretty good descriptor from a literal standpoint

Yes its a mixed bag anymore. Although lately it doesn't have as bad connotations to it that it used to bring up in 90's skinhead

Anymore the press has accused folks etc of racist this,nationalist that, to where people are fed up and know they are full of crap,so its starting to turn in our favor

That's actually a pretty good lil video from the standpoint of self sufficient, ways to raise kids,protection,etc. & that's all so evil in their eyes,lol😂

That's the problem. "white nationalist" sounds "right" when taken literally, but everyone *hears* "White Nationalist" and you are *instantly* a skinhead white trash or larping nazi.

The term, and all the 1.0 crap in any of our minds, has to go away completely. A new vocabulary. A new dialectic.

Something can "come back" when the old meanings have passed on into history and no longer evoke the *old meanings*.

And that will be likely a long long time from now.

@celticflame For the younger generation, like "communist" maybe it doesn't sound as bad, but to anyone old and in control of things it sounds like shit.

For your kids, it may be "ok".

Right now, it's plutonium or cyanide.

Of course you and Jacob already know this, but I think it bears repeating again, and again and again.

@Why Tea Very true, but there are other reasons to avoid the label, other than violent connotations. The normie believes that “white” merely refers to appearance or skin color. The label “Identitarian” is superior for the reason the connotation is that we prioritize heritage and culture, not just appearance. In addition, we should be open to strategies other than separatism. Not that I wouldn’t support a European homeland, it is ultimately a best case scenario. We can achieve our goals and preserve our people by advancing immigration restriction, freedom of association, and promoting our own identity politics.

Right.

(I didn't say those were the *only* reasons...)

Freedom of association has been important to me since... the 1980s.

Definitely, just throwing my thoughts out there lol

And I switched on immigration, despite being a libertarian, as soon as I realized the truth!