Message from @V.Balboa - PA
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The Romans expelled them for their Jewry. These are facts.
All the dumbass 2.0 GPA in highschool kids kept acting like great thinkers by saying "the elite have all the power" and nothing else, some of these kids couldn't define a monarchy
@Danimal876 Maybe instead of Democracy we back the traditional Republicanism of our forefathers. Democracy= Mobs.
@fgtveassassinif only they learned the elites was code was for Jews.
I think democracy should be replaced with something, but I'm not sure with what
I wanted to sperg so bad
Our forefathers and the ancient Greeks both warned against "democracy" after it failed.
Monarchy and parliament.
Consul & Senate.
we definitely can't "go back" to a previous time in history, or else we'll end up in the same place
Actual picture of me in American Gov whenever someone said elites
Really need a new system instead of rehashed old ones. Propertarianism is a step in the right direction.
@Ian Where we are now, I'd have to argue that there is a lot more tied into the word "democracy" than mobs. It's also a much more emotionally salient word as it references the people. Republicanism is a word only used a fraction of the time as much as democracy, and sounds too vested in one American political party. The idea of someone representing your interests doesn't pull at the heartstrings the way that government deriving its legitimacy from "the people" does.
@Danimal876 In terms of optics yes but in terms of actual substance Democracy will overwhelm us. It's purely a numbers game.
The system as it is now is thoroughly anti-democratic. It's against the people themselves. We are the ones fighting for a more perfect union, for justice, domestic tranquility, and for ourselves and our posterity
How is democracy in itself not the people against themselves
Democracy won't ever protect people from demographic shifts. It's not enough on it's own.
I think it can. Israel defines itself as Jewish and democratic.
Can we also acknowledge that the US isn’t a democracy and never was
Our ancestors just weren't explicit enough about our racial identity.
I've heard the point that if we have *actual* democracy, we wouldn't be in this situation today
nice song
The thing is, try talking to the average person about politics. Would you really want this person making decisions?
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Exactly
But democracy doesn't have to necessarily mean direct referendums on things.
Actual Democracy got us here. The voter roles get larger and larger and accept everybody. We're being voted out of existence
Whenever I hear a leftist talk about "muh democracy" I just chuckle at this point
Representative democracy is what I usually said
Lol people cant even define democracy.
I didn't see a difference between that and "constitutional republic"
The problem here is more with universal franchise I think
In a big way, it had to get bigger @Ian . The average voter gets a small say, but the upper classes have the means and the ability to have a larger say.
Always found it semantic
Yes but it got too big. people who own nothing will vote for anything
Is a democracy anything that's democratic?
If the average person didn't have a say at all, most governments would collapse from revolutions.
And I'm no elitist. I come from poverty.
I have transcended being triggered and have reached peak zen when it comes to leftists haha