Message from @Nick_Knight
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@Logan You are probably right.
Past actions have future consequences. Some baggage you can't just put down.
Echos are a wignat meme?...okay
From what I’m gathering here, memes in general are wignat
fun is wignat and also degenerate
Not with you on the degenerate, but the stuff isn’t useful
I’m joking
@missliterallywho No, I would like to hear your answer. If Paul Nehlen or Cantwell or other person that people understandably would prefer to stay away from, started referring to themselves (however incorrectly) as Identitarian, by your own logic, what would you suggest?
What should we do if SPLC brands IE as a hate group?
(maybe IE should trademark "Identitarian," unironically)
@Nick_Knight I assumed they already had.
(they have)
I don’t think that’s likely because their audience wouldn’t like it
The SPLC puts pro-life Christian groups on there though
“identitarian” puts you in a category with AmRen, GI, etc
“alt-right” puts you in a category with... well, you know
When they lost that suit to the Muslim guy the DoD cut ties with them. Pretty sure the events were related.
“identitarian” puts you on the far end of the nationalist movement (which is where we should be, to pull nationalists towards ethnonationalism)
but the hardcore wignats have decided that any nationalist that isn’t fedposting is a cuck
This is sort of what I was alluding at before. Some thought needs to be put to ensure that the national conversation happens on our terms with our definitions.
That's what I meant by "owning it"
that makes more sense and I agree
From the SPLC on IE:
"Rather than denigrating people of color, the campus-based organization focuses on raising white racial consciousness, building community based on shared racial identity and intellectualizing white supremacist ideology."
*intellectualizing white well-being
there, i fixed it.
that actually doesn’t make us look so bad (if you filter out the standard “white supremacist” smear)
oh no, they’re raising consciousness and building community!
what normal people even know what the splc even is?
White supremacism means whites having ANY political power or wealth in any capacity
@Lawrence of Eurabia The issue is every MSM uses SPLC/ADL as "sources" for smearing groups like IE.
Doesn't matter if others know who they actually are.
yeah
Lawrence, the FBI uses the SPLC as their source of info for hate groups, for their civil rights protection group
@Lawrence of Eurabia Tucker readers know. He did a whole bit on them in Ship of Fools.
Ship of Fools should be mandatory reading. Going to play the audio book again and get hype.
Plus, just read it out Southern Poverty Law Center, you can just see them marching with MLK. (they were actually founded in the early 70s way after the civil rights movements)
I will drop it, as I do not wish to talk in circles. I just think echoes aren't dead (but accept IE doesn't want to use them), I respectfully contest disavowal of TRS, and I worry that the logical conclusion of dropping anything that "WigNats" sniff at means something actually important (like the word "Identitarian," should it catch on) could hypothetically be dropped later
@Nick_Knight thankfully they are too busy harassing Roger Stone.
we need to get normal conservatives to see the triple letter agencies for what they really are
I was at an outreach program with them last year and they mentioned that.
(Disclaimer: I do not work on any type of Law Enforcement)
There’s a time and place for the shock jock approach. We just need to understand that we have a different role to play.