my dad is a great example. Very smart guy, disillusioned liberal, has all but said he supports IE. But he still has this fear that there’s a secret [ideology redacted] undercurrent among people like us

evening Nemets

I have always been vocally against TRS, not as a media company, but as an advocacy group

@Nemets Добрый вечер, пацан!

But opticswise, @rising_serpent or @cursedsalad from Twitter are much better at making arguments while using comfortable language.

@John O - a delicate distinction that unfortunately many cannot seem to understand

whoa whoa Nemets is not a пацан

he’s a респектабельный молодой человек like all of us

Well John seemed a bit scandalized. But yes I am not advocating IE change at all.

I just think echoes isn't a dead meme. Difference of opinion.

TRS pool parties have a good use. Where do people who don't make the cut for IE go to make sure they don't become too isolated? Jayoh is really making a good effort at helping members improve. That is valuable

@Nick_Knight FTN is the only source I know of for some of the really important but unsung developments.

I found out about the Stephen Miller and Chris Christie article from them and I don't think anyone in IE who doesn't listen to them caught those developments.

I'd be interested in making a podcast that does a similar thing to FTN. The trick is being entertaining without sounding like a crank. I don't think they sound like cranks but their name and platform comes with too much baggage.

@Alex Kolchak - NY Далан. Значит, «чувак» 😎

yes I know lol

I did go to Russian elementary school

If Paul Nehlen embraced the meme, it is a wignat meme

Re: echoes

that’s where they recruited me

Lol

I can feel all of my youthful vitality being sapped from this discussion

If he started calling himself Identitarian, what would we do?

That's what happens when you stop anime posting

@Logan You are probably right.

Past actions have future consequences. Some baggage you can't just put down.

Echos are a wignat meme?...okay

From what I’m gathering here, memes in general are wignat

fun is wignat and also degenerate

Not with you on the degenerate, but the stuff isn’t useful

I’m joking

@missliterallywho No, I would like to hear your answer. If Paul Nehlen or Cantwell or other person that people understandably would prefer to stay away from, started referring to themselves (however incorrectly) as Identitarian, by your own logic, what would you suggest?

What should we do if SPLC brands IE as a hate group?

(maybe IE should trademark "Identitarian," unironically)

@Nick_Knight I assumed they already had.

(they have)

I don’t think that’s likely because their audience wouldn’t like it

The SPLC puts pro-life Christian groups on there though

“identitarian” puts you in a category with AmRen, GI, etc
“alt-right” puts you in a category with... well, you know

When they lost that suit to the Muslim guy the DoD cut ties with them. Pretty sure the events were related.

“identitarian” puts you on the far end of the nationalist movement (which is where we should be, to pull nationalists towards ethnonationalism)

but the hardcore wignats have decided that any nationalist that isn’t fedposting is a cuck

This is sort of what I was alluding at before. Some thought needs to be put to ensure that the national conversation happens on our terms with our definitions.

That's what I meant by "owning it"

Sorry it came across as something else.

that makes more sense and I agree