Message from @ophiuchus
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@ophiuchus so do you think it would still be a good idea to send people to Red Ice, or would it be an issue that they see a debunking video and think "oh it's been debunked"
The one guy was so good you'd have thought he was actually an SPLC/antifa journo
I've yet to talk to someone who actually has a rational argument against a wall, I either get "Because" "What about boats/ladders"
does anyone genuinely believe that argument or do they know it's just a talking point?
because I feel like it's pretty obvious that the wall would slow them down
Or the classis "Americans commit crimes too" like wtf I never knew that open the border
My point on 'You just get a ladder to get over the wall' is this:
“We can’t prevent 100% of crime so might as well not prevent any”
0/10 argument
Go back in time to east berlin and tell the people living there 'its just a wall bro'
Not that easy
Generally the real argument against the wall falls back on the craftier ilk who don’t care about the browning of America.
The ladder idea is dumb for so many reasons its ridiculous
@Jacob I think the mock debates are a great idea!
They did debates (over two contradictory directions for identitarians) at Amren some of the years at conferences; they're interesting to watch
“Seatbelts don’t prevent 100% of auto deaths so no more seatbelts”
Mock debates/rhetoric hot seats are a good way to tighten rhetoric and talking points in a safe environment where you can adjust things
Oh god Spencer and Taylor in the same room <:nervous:359009898115104770>
Spencer and Taylor used to meet pretty often
Its much better to have your boys critique your points than have some journo ruin your life over it, even little things could be huge to them
He used to ask some really good questions a few years back. What happened to Spencer is actually a tradegy for our people. So much wasted potential.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frU21i9CJKI
Can some of you guys watch this video and tell me if you think it would actually persuade anyone? Because I personally find it obnoxious and lacking any actual arguments, but I'm not sure how someone unfamiliar with our talking points would feel.
@ophiuchus you should check this if you have time ^
I watched a video today in which Taylor and Gavin McInnes talked about having dinner together over the course of multiple years.
thanks
also this is an unimportant side note, but I find it really annoying that the thumbnail says that it's part two, when really it's the only video
and I keep thinking I accidentally linked the wrong one
I don't find that video convincing, he doesn't address her stuff substantially
Ya I feel like even if I watched this in my liberal days I'd find it pretty obnoxious
I often watch the originals of videos when people try to debunk Alternative Hypothesis.... there are some science guys who try to do it
Just got late night flight tickets March 7th & car rental for LOPF.
A lot of “science guys” try to essentially dazzle people into submission with big science words
One annoying thing that some far leftists do is they respond to *everything* with "but capitalism" even when it's entirely irrelevant
like in this video for a lot of the questions he just goes like "OH GOLLY GEE CAPITALISM"
Cultural Marxism and Late Capitalism are the same thing
The most galaxy brain thing Nathan ever told me