We are the real americans

I’d agree

That whole, the enemy is just going to call us * anyways jargon is dead.

Well they are but the point is what normies will think of us

I don’t let my enemy define who I am.

They’ve put you on the defensive if you are afraid to be there

Lol

If that’s the case you’ve immediately left the argument any time anyone calls you alt right and you are scrambling to defend yourself and convince them that you aren’t what they say who cares what they say

Dont fight on verbal terrain selected by your opponent with an evolutionary advantage in verbal combat

I've never been nor will I ever be altright. What are you talking about

We have an advantage in visual reasoning. Appearance is our favored ground.

We’re literally labeled bro Nazis if you google identity Evropa

If they call us nazis we should just go ahead and strap on the armbands lol. I think that argument has been tried and failed.

Does that mean we should identify and defend that term also?

No

>if you lean into enemy labels you win
Bro stahp

But I wouldn’t fight to say we aren’t because then you leave the argument and you are arguing in their terms

It’s like being called racist who cares

You in private called yourself altright. Thats accepting the term.

Respect the language as autistic as it seems

When they call is nazis, we should do our best to not look like nazis and to be as normal as possible, because we're all normal rational people with normal rational views. People look at us and go "Huh, they don't look like nazis, he looks like any other Joe Schmoe" and realize the media is BS. By throwing on armbands and helmets and say "yeah sure we are what you say we are" we're just feeding into them

We should look better than normal. What normal wants to be.

I literally never said we should put on armbands they would be incredibly stupid

I should stay out of this one but I’m sitting here at jiffy lube so; what the heck; all we can do is continue to educate the public about our message and what we are about. And we educate people with our message which is NOT centered in hate for any particular group, and first and foremost with our appearance and behavior in public as well as in private.

We arent an alternative. We arent even necesarrily right. We are real americans of european descent who realize race > culture > economics

There is no alternative to being yourself

@dillontheplumber So what are you saying? That we should call ourselves altright because that's what the media labels us as?

The bullying will continue until proper identity is assumed.

I guess I just didn’t know the term “alt right” was as bad as you guys make it seem

Name calling is also a sign of intellectual defeat btw

True, every time someone has called me racist, bigot, uneducated etc I say "How so?" and they usually just scoff and walk away

Yes, you’re going to be called a lot of things. There are more than two options here- it’s not a dichotomy between “accept the moniker” and “dig in your heels and vehemently deny the association.” You’re neglecting the option to “ignore it and get on with what you’re doing.” When someone called you a name in school, what were you told to do? Ignore it. How you define yourself and how others define you are not likely to be the same. Which is correct? The people we’re trying to reach have to decide for themselves. It’s largely up to us whether they accept our definition or the other, ultimately. We have learned, through a lot of struggle, that the other people in this “movement” are not necessarily “fine” just because we have similar ideas. You are completely delusional if you think there was no actual ground for people to call the altright “Nazi-sympathizing” when the NSM was showing up at their rallies. The term was ruined because of who was allowed to camp under that tent. We cannot make that mistake again.

Historical circle jerk aside America won WWII and we should not apologize or dig it up

Lets focus on our story.

https://www.westernjournal.com/ct/fbi-statistics-ilhan-omars-district-terror-recruitment-capital-us/?ff_source=push&ff_medium=westernjournalism&ff_campaign=manualpostv&ff_content=2019-02-20

Well, that isn't true. @Grayson

I don't think the term was ruined after that event per se, but rather over the course of 2017.

@Matthias you are right

We haven't used the term since late 2017.

I stand corrected

We want to be associated with sophisticated, successful, healthy, well adjusted people. Idenitarian is our word and we own what it means. Identity is not an alternative to anything.