Message from @Matthias
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>if you lean into enemy labels you win
Bro stahp
But I wouldn’t fight to say we aren’t because then you leave the argument and you are arguing in their terms
It’s like being called racist who cares
You in private called yourself altright. Thats accepting the term.
Respect the language as autistic as it seems
When they call is nazis, we should do our best to not look like nazis and to be as normal as possible, because we're all normal rational people with normal rational views. People look at us and go "Huh, they don't look like nazis, he looks like any other Joe Schmoe" and realize the media is BS. By throwing on armbands and helmets and say "yeah sure we are what you say we are" we're just feeding into them
We should look better than normal. What normal wants to be.
I literally never said we should put on armbands they would be incredibly stupid
I should stay out of this one but I’m sitting here at jiffy lube so; what the heck; all we can do is continue to educate the public about our message and what we are about. And we educate people with our message which is NOT centered in hate for any particular group, and first and foremost with our appearance and behavior in public as well as in private.
We arent an alternative. We arent even necesarrily right. We are real americans of european descent who realize race > culture > economics
There is no alternative to being yourself
@dillontheplumber So what are you saying? That we should call ourselves altright because that's what the media labels us as?
The bullying will continue until proper identity is assumed.
I guess I just didn’t know the term “alt right” was as bad as you guys make it seem
Name calling is also a sign of intellectual defeat btw
True, every time someone has called me racist, bigot, uneducated etc I say "How so?" and they usually just scoff and walk away
Yes, you’re going to be called a lot of things. There are more than two options here- it’s not a dichotomy between “accept the moniker” and “dig in your heels and vehemently deny the association.” You’re neglecting the option to “ignore it and get on with what you’re doing.” When someone called you a name in school, what were you told to do? Ignore it. How you define yourself and how others define you are not likely to be the same. Which is correct? The people we’re trying to reach have to decide for themselves. It’s largely up to us whether they accept our definition or the other, ultimately. We have learned, through a lot of struggle, that the other people in this “movement” are not necessarily “fine” just because we have similar ideas. You are completely delusional if you think there was no actual ground for people to call the altright “Nazi-sympathizing” when the NSM was showing up at their rallies. The term was ruined because of who was allowed to camp under that tent. We cannot make that mistake again.
Historical circle jerk aside America won WWII and we should not apologize or dig it up
Lets focus on our story.
I don't think the term was ruined after that event per se, but rather over the course of 2017.
We haven't used the term since late 2017.
I stand corrected
We want to be associated with sophisticated, successful, healthy, well adjusted people. Idenitarian is our word and we own what it means. Identity is not an alternative to anything.
Yeah so much of this just comes down to language, savviness, and the ability to exclude which makes a membership organization model more valuable.
For better or for worse, guilt by association is a legitimate litmus in many cases but not all.
I'm curious how anyone could think that the Alt right is thriving. It's a dead movement. Every organization associated with them either presently or formerly is in shambles, everyone who self identifies as an alt right leader is an absolute wreck. Nobody in that movement has the capacity to do anything irl - either publicly or privately... Even proclaiming you are "Alt-Right" is a career and social death sentence. Not necessarily so for American Nationalist or even Identitarian.
We're effectively the last man standing, and purposely disassociating from those toxic and soul sucking types really one of the big reasons why thats the case.
I didn't like Star Wars the last jedi, and I especially didn't like this quote, but out of context it works.
"it's not about fighting what you hate, it's about saving what you love"
As terrible as that movie was, I can appreciate the sentiment of that statement.
Dork. 😂
American Nationalist is also a good term if someone asks what you are because it could mean a wide range of things, economic to racial
@dillontheplumber if it makes you feel better we bullied eachother a lot before arriving at this consensus
@Papa Pizzagate that was so embarrassing to type out tbh 😂
It's a good quote haha. Just messing with you
And of all people, Rose Tico had to be the one to utter it 🙄 lol
Mike Pejčinović Fan Acct 🇨🇦 (@MikePFanAccount) Tweeted:
Look at a major defense contractor replying to an antifa account as if they had to answer to them. What is going on here? Why is a defense contractor replying to a member of a group suspected of domestic terrorism? https://t.co/BA84RJrTPC https://twitter.com/MikePFanAccount/status/1098032215324352515?s=17
the irony is too great when antifa and communists support big banks and defense contractors
they really are losers just parroting talking points
Ironic but not contradiction. They both work toward consolidating power. Read FBI report on Rockefeller involvment in promoting socialism in academia. The only place to go from monopoly is government take over.
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