Message from @Perihelion - CA
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But I just found that to be really cool and interesting. Even though America is totally zogged right now our roots are really important and those people overcame insane odds to make something that was, at one point really amazing
If the Colonies had gold this would be a completely different story. England needed to pay their debts, and poor tobacco farmers are not the best way to do that.
It was also not a popular movement in the sense that only a minority actively supported it
most were indifferent
and it was lead by the elite
I also have a soft spot in my heart for some 'merica patriotism haha. Yeah I don't know when I heard that earlier it really resonated with me
It makes me want to go back and read huck fin and Louis and Clark and all that old literature
@Current Ronin why wouldn’t you have a soft spot for it? That’s kind of the entire point of this group my man.
I EAT BREATHE AND SLEEP AMERICA
USA USA USA!!!!
this guy is apparently running as a democrat... interesting
obviously would never win but damn
Based Yang
I'm not against supporting non whites who prove they will champion our causes if there's not a white alternative on the field. But gotta see some action.
Maybe I'm the odd one out but I have no fondness for America, even the America conceived in the hearts and minds of the founding fathers. It's my home, but at the end of the day it's still a product of the Enlightenment and egalitarianism.
@olly-CA yeah see I get black pilled about it too. It's also just become a parody of itself. Like it's not the United states of America. It's merica
"All Men Are Created Equal" line really caused a lot of problems. And they obviously didn't mean it either.
I think they meme'd themselves into a corner
Asian Andy 2020!
@Perihelion - CA They meant “All White men”
Yes they did
Blacks weren’t even considered people by the founding fathers
Well it's super silly then
white men aren't all equal
I don't believe they meant it
If it ain’t legal, say no thanks! 😥🤦🏼♂️
Positing that all white men are equal opens up the ground that all black men are equal to whites too because it's self evident that some blacks are more competent than some whites.
It's a bad meme
Founders goofed
@Alex Kolchak - NY I'm glad he's willing to say something about whites but it's a shame we have so few of our own people out there championing our interests.
@Perihelion - CA I don’t think so personally
I just get really tired of the self-hate among Americans in this movement
@olly-CA Yeah, kind of maybe. I mean it is true that America did not, as a nation form as organically, as Germany, Britain or Russia.
But that's because it was founded under different circumstances as a far flung colony of another power on a seperate continent.
I think the founders used the ideas that were prevelant at the time to legitimize a new nation.
https://youtu.be/ZIFv8Wzy_qc of course CATO wants immigrants
At time of founding America was overwelmingly Anglo with some Germans/Dutch
Their point was that they were equal to the original British and were not lesser because of their birth in America and even though they were a colony were just as good
It had a national character
Founders clearly were just signaling and couldn’t find a better argument to support their particular sovereignty other than natural rights, that they were being violated/overruled by the King and Parliament.
Yes and I’m founding stock so I have claim to that