Message from @grilomoto

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2018-09-21 18:00:19 UTC  

oppan gangnam style

2018-09-21 18:02:19 UTC  

Why?

2018-09-21 18:02:43 UTC  

Suspending civil liberties should only be done sparingly if ever, and even then only the most dire of circumstances, such as nationwide famine or invasion.

2018-09-21 18:24:06 UTC  

Civil liberties should be warred against

2018-09-21 18:25:05 UTC  

Indeed

2018-09-21 18:38:20 UTC  

yes, civil liberties can be withdrawn for emergencies. However, rights cannot be infringed

2018-09-21 19:00:04 UTC  

depends what civil liberties

2018-09-21 19:00:07 UTC  

some yes some no

2018-09-21 19:59:43 UTC  

What Campodin said

2018-09-21 20:40:21 UTC  

Yeah it's fine.

2018-09-21 20:48:02 UTC  

what exactly is defined as "civil liberties" and how are they different from your rights?

2018-09-21 20:48:32 UTC  

The police are not there to protect you, they are there to protect the law.

2018-09-21 20:49:25 UTC  

Yes

2018-09-21 20:49:29 UTC  

@grilomoto civil liberties are the things the government allows you to do and protects.

2018-09-21 20:49:31 UTC  

sacrifice multiple civil liberties

2018-09-21 20:49:40 UTC  

the only real dependence is what kind of government it is

2018-09-21 20:49:47 UTC  

is it a nepotistic deep state

2018-09-21 20:49:52 UTC  

or one true to its people

2018-09-21 20:50:15 UTC  

protection of privacy is a good example of a civil liberty imo

2018-09-21 20:50:22 UTC  

@campodin and how that differs from your rights? any example?

2018-09-21 20:50:27 UTC  

oh ok good

2018-09-21 20:51:09 UTC  

Answer is no

2018-09-21 20:51:09 UTC  

it is really murky waters because naturally the two overlap

2018-09-21 20:51:34 UTC  

voting is a civil liberty

2018-09-21 20:52:57 UTC  

where i'm from voting is obligatory 😢

2018-09-21 20:53:06 UTC  

@Summī Imperator, 呪い殿 what's the difference if it is part of the law that they should protect you?

2018-09-21 20:54:44 UTC  

Because ultimately the police serve the state, and must follow the laws of the Governing force.

2018-09-21 20:55:04 UTC  

Otherwise they don't have a job

2018-09-21 20:55:33 UTC  

but what's the practical difference?

2018-09-21 21:09:56 UTC  

Well, the difference is that if you have a law that demands their protection of the people then it is not impossible to amend laws by bills and reduce, or remove that obligation to protect.

2018-09-22 07:05:32 UTC  

what

2018-09-22 21:47:26 UTC  

"the right" is impossible to define accurately, thus proving once again the right/left paradigm is a tool of our enemy. It is not right v left, rather national v global

2018-09-22 21:47:56 UTC  

I intend to be on the side of nationhood, even if that means I may seem like a "leftist" at times to some

2018-09-22 21:59:48 UTC  

@V-NAF_Aardist this is true, for what does the fascist have in common with a monarchist or the libertarian with your typical Christian conservative? Yet all these are apparently rightwing ideologies.

2018-09-22 22:05:18 UTC  

@everyone Daily Question 🔖

Should the United States be worried about China? Are they a threat militarily or economically?

2018-09-22 22:05:24 UTC  

GAY

2018-09-22 22:05:24 UTC  

no u

2018-09-22 22:05:29 UTC  

yes

2018-09-22 22:05:32 UTC  

China number 1

2018-09-22 22:05:37 UTC  

china needs to die

2018-09-22 22:05:37 UTC  

China numba wun