Message from @campodin

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2018-09-21 17:49:24 UTC  

We need to trade a bit of liberty for a lot of security, never the other way around

2018-09-21 17:49:37 UTC  

@Gamer4713 That's trading lots of liberty for a little security ie a bad idea

2018-09-21 17:50:04 UTC  

I do not want my liberties taken away for security.

2018-09-21 17:50:27 UTC  

I will give away one small one at most.

2018-09-21 17:50:49 UTC  

no u

2018-09-21 17:56:18 UTC  

Yeah, ofc

2018-09-21 17:56:24 UTC  

Sometimes you just have to

2018-09-21 17:56:26 UTC  

Some

2018-09-21 17:56:30 UTC  

Not completely

2018-09-21 17:56:58 UTC  

Privacy is needed so people can experiment on not so nicely percieved actions whithout persecutions

2018-09-21 17:57:01 UTC  

Its just humans

2018-09-21 17:58:32 UTC  

While monitoring streets with a lotta cameras and buying data from facebook google+ is quite on line but acceptable, spying with hidden microphones in CPUs (which did happen if you dont remember the famous reddit controversy) is completely off charts and should be punishable

2018-09-21 18:00:07 UTC  

ayyy

2018-09-21 18:00:11 UTC  

sexy lady

2018-09-21 18:00:14 UTC  

op op op op

2018-09-21 18:00:19 UTC  

oppan gangnam style

2018-09-21 18:02:19 UTC  

Why?

2018-09-21 18:02:43 UTC  

Suspending civil liberties should only be done sparingly if ever, and even then only the most dire of circumstances, such as nationwide famine or invasion.

2018-09-21 18:24:06 UTC  

Civil liberties should be warred against

2018-09-21 18:25:05 UTC  

Indeed

2018-09-21 18:38:20 UTC  

yes, civil liberties can be withdrawn for emergencies. However, rights cannot be infringed

2018-09-21 19:00:04 UTC  

depends what civil liberties

2018-09-21 19:00:07 UTC  

some yes some no

2018-09-21 19:59:43 UTC  

What Campodin said

2018-09-21 20:40:21 UTC  

Yeah it's fine.

2018-09-21 20:48:02 UTC  

what exactly is defined as "civil liberties" and how are they different from your rights?

2018-09-21 20:48:32 UTC  

The police are not there to protect you, they are there to protect the law.

2018-09-21 20:49:25 UTC  

Yes

2018-09-21 20:49:29 UTC  

@grilomoto civil liberties are the things the government allows you to do and protects.

2018-09-21 20:49:31 UTC  

sacrifice multiple civil liberties

2018-09-21 20:49:40 UTC  

the only real dependence is what kind of government it is

2018-09-21 20:49:47 UTC  

is it a nepotistic deep state

2018-09-21 20:49:52 UTC  

or one true to its people

2018-09-21 20:50:15 UTC  

protection of privacy is a good example of a civil liberty imo

2018-09-21 20:50:22 UTC  

@campodin and how that differs from your rights? any example?

2018-09-21 20:50:27 UTC  

oh ok good

2018-09-21 20:51:09 UTC  

Answer is no

2018-09-21 20:51:09 UTC  

it is really murky waters because naturally the two overlap

2018-09-21 20:51:34 UTC  

voting is a civil liberty

2018-09-21 20:52:57 UTC  

where i'm from voting is obligatory 😢

2018-09-21 20:53:06 UTC  

@Summī Imperator, 呪い殿 what's the difference if it is part of the law that they should protect you?