Message from @Dr.Wol

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2018-03-24 14:30:28 UTC  

Basically.

2018-03-24 14:30:30 UTC  

If the number of sexes is n the number of genders is n + 1. One for each sex, and one for the people who basically abandon all earthly ties

2018-03-24 14:31:00 UTC  

The difference is tumblr’s idea of agender is “I don’t like male or female so I pick neither”

2018-03-24 14:31:13 UTC  

not acting on your impulses is not creating a different gender

2018-03-24 14:31:37 UTC  

these "enlightened" people still had the same general traits associated with their sex, they just chose not to act on it

2018-03-24 14:31:46 UTC  

like celebate people in churches

2018-03-24 14:31:59 UTC  

Which is quite different from “I wonder the earth in search of enlightenment while abandoning the desires of the flesh”

2018-03-24 14:32:12 UTC  

It’s called asexual. It’s not a new gender.

2018-03-24 14:33:22 UTC  

And if you believe in a spiritual third gender then you have no argument against all the genders SJWs have made up.

2018-03-24 14:33:56 UTC  

There’s a difference between being asexual, and living without material possessions, any major bonds with other people, and surviving off the bare minimum

2018-03-24 14:34:12 UTC  

being a minimalist doesn't make you a 3rd gender though

2018-03-24 14:34:35 UTC  

its like those vulcans from star trek

2018-03-24 14:34:42 UTC  

they still had emotion, they just suppressed it

2018-03-24 14:35:15 UTC  

a celebate minimalist is still part of their original gender, they just suppress the impulses and urgest commonly associated with said sex/gender

2018-03-24 14:35:22 UTC  

Vulcans also lived among themselves in a society and fit into 2 distinct roles

2018-03-24 14:35:58 UTC  

And are also completely fictional

2018-03-24 14:36:07 UTC  

as are 3rd genders

2018-03-24 14:39:17 UTC  

Again, it would depend on how you defined gender. If you defined it based on societal roles and norms, the 3rd option has existed historically in ancient civilization. That’s what I base the difference on. There are no societal norms associated with any of the genders Tumblr’s created. They’re made up names. In many ancient civilizations people who chose the path of enlightenment had different societal expectations and traits attributed to them than Men & Women did

2018-03-24 14:39:49 UTC  

gender isn't based on social norms, its based on traits from biological sex

2018-03-24 14:40:00 UTC  

And okay

2018-03-24 14:40:09 UTC  

lets assume theres a gender from rejecting both urges

2018-03-24 14:40:18 UTC  

then there must also be one to embrace both

2018-03-24 14:40:21 UTC  

its polar opposite

2018-03-24 14:40:24 UTC  

so Omnigendered

2018-03-24 14:40:51 UTC  

and if you have taht, why not a Hexamale-Quadrofem gender where you're 60% male and 40% female?

2018-03-24 14:41:07 UTC  

Except it’s fundamentally impossible to take on both the traditional roles of men & women in any given society

2018-03-24 14:41:24 UTC  

yes there is actually, its called the nanystate

2018-03-24 14:41:29 UTC  

where you both provide and nurture the people 😛

2018-03-24 14:41:31 UTC  

Why do you think single parent households are universally worse than 2 parent ones

2018-03-24 14:41:48 UTC  

Because a single person can’t possibly fill both roles at once

2018-03-24 14:42:13 UTC  

they can actually, those households are usually worse because the parents DON'T fill both roles, and don't have the time to either

2018-03-24 14:42:16 UTC  

Work at home dads are a thing.

2018-03-24 14:42:28 UTC  

Can work and watch the kids.

2018-03-24 14:43:09 UTC  

raisign a child is a full time job, so either be a parent 100% and have no work/other stuff to do

or divide it taht one works and is a parent 50%, and the other cleans/etc and parents 50%

2018-03-24 14:43:32 UTC  

The nannystate would mean the person working has taken on the traditional male role, and the nanny has taken on the traditional female role.

2018-03-24 14:43:48 UTC  

yes and a nannystate fulfills both

2018-03-24 14:44:00 UTC  

its a strongarm taht provides, and nurtures

2018-03-24 14:44:27 UTC  

Yes but the single parent isn’t fulfilling both roles, someone else is filling the female role, they just happen to pay that person instead of marry them

2018-03-24 14:44:54 UTC  

its still the same influence

2018-03-24 14:45:03 UTC  

but if we go back, you said you base gender on social views

2018-03-24 14:45:22 UTC  

and that means you consider gender a social construct, like those people that think gender is a spectrum