Message from @Dr.Wol

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2018-03-24 14:34:12 UTC  

being a minimalist doesn't make you a 3rd gender though

2018-03-24 14:34:35 UTC  

its like those vulcans from star trek

2018-03-24 14:34:42 UTC  

they still had emotion, they just suppressed it

2018-03-24 14:35:15 UTC  

a celebate minimalist is still part of their original gender, they just suppress the impulses and urgest commonly associated with said sex/gender

2018-03-24 14:35:22 UTC  

Vulcans also lived among themselves in a society and fit into 2 distinct roles

2018-03-24 14:35:58 UTC  

And are also completely fictional

2018-03-24 14:36:07 UTC  

as are 3rd genders

2018-03-24 14:39:17 UTC  

Again, it would depend on how you defined gender. If you defined it based on societal roles and norms, the 3rd option has existed historically in ancient civilization. That’s what I base the difference on. There are no societal norms associated with any of the genders Tumblr’s created. They’re made up names. In many ancient civilizations people who chose the path of enlightenment had different societal expectations and traits attributed to them than Men & Women did

2018-03-24 14:39:49 UTC  

gender isn't based on social norms, its based on traits from biological sex

2018-03-24 14:40:00 UTC  

And okay

2018-03-24 14:40:09 UTC  

lets assume theres a gender from rejecting both urges

2018-03-24 14:40:18 UTC  

then there must also be one to embrace both

2018-03-24 14:40:21 UTC  

its polar opposite

2018-03-24 14:40:24 UTC  

so Omnigendered

2018-03-24 14:40:51 UTC  

and if you have taht, why not a Hexamale-Quadrofem gender where you're 60% male and 40% female?

2018-03-24 14:41:07 UTC  

Except it’s fundamentally impossible to take on both the traditional roles of men & women in any given society

2018-03-24 14:41:24 UTC  

yes there is actually, its called the nanystate

2018-03-24 14:41:29 UTC  

where you both provide and nurture the people 😛

2018-03-24 14:41:31 UTC  

Why do you think single parent households are universally worse than 2 parent ones

2018-03-24 14:41:48 UTC  

Because a single person can’t possibly fill both roles at once

2018-03-24 14:42:13 UTC  

they can actually, those households are usually worse because the parents DON'T fill both roles, and don't have the time to either

2018-03-24 14:42:16 UTC  

Work at home dads are a thing.

2018-03-24 14:42:28 UTC  

Can work and watch the kids.

2018-03-24 14:43:09 UTC  

raisign a child is a full time job, so either be a parent 100% and have no work/other stuff to do

or divide it taht one works and is a parent 50%, and the other cleans/etc and parents 50%

2018-03-24 14:43:32 UTC  

The nannystate would mean the person working has taken on the traditional male role, and the nanny has taken on the traditional female role.

2018-03-24 14:43:48 UTC  

yes and a nannystate fulfills both

2018-03-24 14:44:00 UTC  

its a strongarm taht provides, and nurtures

2018-03-24 14:44:27 UTC  

Yes but the single parent isn’t fulfilling both roles, someone else is filling the female role, they just happen to pay that person instead of marry them

2018-03-24 14:44:54 UTC  

its still the same influence

2018-03-24 14:45:03 UTC  

but if we go back, you said you base gender on social views

2018-03-24 14:45:22 UTC  

and that means you consider gender a social construct, like those people that think gender is a spectrum

2018-03-24 14:45:27 UTC  

Who’s raising & nurturing the child, the working parent or the nanny?

2018-03-24 14:45:50 UTC  

as i said, if a parent doesn't need to work and clean, they can literally be both

2018-03-24 14:46:21 UTC  

So someone else is taking over the traditional roles of the female

2018-03-24 14:46:27 UTC  

the issue is a lack of time

Hence parenting works best as a couple, one works to provide, and the other settles the home front, and you both divide the child-time

2018-03-24 14:46:47 UTC  

no, i said that a 100% parent can do both

2018-03-24 14:46:51 UTC  

cleaning isn't a traditional female role

2018-03-24 14:47:22 UTC  

It may not be anymore, but it sure as hell was 60 years ago

2018-03-24 14:47:29 UTC  

also wrong

2018-03-24 14:47:38 UTC  

its nurturing that is the female role

2018-03-24 14:47:49 UTC  

and yes, living in a clean household is better