Message from @Dr.Wol

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2018-03-24 14:24:39 UTC  

then you have two stick

2018-03-24 14:24:43 UTC  

stick win every time

2018-03-24 14:26:31 UTC  

I mean, yes, in modern eastern culture the 3rd gender is basically dead

2018-03-24 14:27:02 UTC  

The 3rd gender basically died universally when abrahamic religion took over the world

2018-03-24 14:27:28 UTC  

Because abrahamic religions are patriarchal in nature

2018-03-24 14:28:22 UTC  

but im saying there can't be a 3rd gender because genders are derived from the traits found in the biological sexes

2018-03-24 14:28:34 UTC  

for a 3rd gender to exist you need a 3rd sex

2018-03-24 14:29:03 UTC  

I’m saying the 3rd is derived from the null

2018-03-24 14:29:53 UTC  

You can’t magically become null.

2018-03-24 14:30:04 UTC  

and how is that defined? cuz it sounds like the "agender" bull that tumblrists preach

2018-03-24 14:30:28 UTC  

Basically.

2018-03-24 14:30:30 UTC  

If the number of sexes is n the number of genders is n + 1. One for each sex, and one for the people who basically abandon all earthly ties

2018-03-24 14:31:00 UTC  

The difference is tumblr’s idea of agender is “I don’t like male or female so I pick neither”

2018-03-24 14:31:13 UTC  

not acting on your impulses is not creating a different gender

2018-03-24 14:31:37 UTC  

these "enlightened" people still had the same general traits associated with their sex, they just chose not to act on it

2018-03-24 14:31:46 UTC  

like celebate people in churches

2018-03-24 14:31:59 UTC  

Which is quite different from “I wonder the earth in search of enlightenment while abandoning the desires of the flesh”

2018-03-24 14:32:12 UTC  

It’s called asexual. It’s not a new gender.

2018-03-24 14:33:22 UTC  

And if you believe in a spiritual third gender then you have no argument against all the genders SJWs have made up.

2018-03-24 14:33:56 UTC  

There’s a difference between being asexual, and living without material possessions, any major bonds with other people, and surviving off the bare minimum

2018-03-24 14:34:12 UTC  

being a minimalist doesn't make you a 3rd gender though

2018-03-24 14:34:35 UTC  

its like those vulcans from star trek

2018-03-24 14:34:42 UTC  

they still had emotion, they just suppressed it

2018-03-24 14:35:15 UTC  

a celebate minimalist is still part of their original gender, they just suppress the impulses and urgest commonly associated with said sex/gender

2018-03-24 14:35:22 UTC  

Vulcans also lived among themselves in a society and fit into 2 distinct roles

2018-03-24 14:35:58 UTC  

And are also completely fictional

2018-03-24 14:36:07 UTC  

as are 3rd genders

2018-03-24 14:39:17 UTC  

Again, it would depend on how you defined gender. If you defined it based on societal roles and norms, the 3rd option has existed historically in ancient civilization. That’s what I base the difference on. There are no societal norms associated with any of the genders Tumblr’s created. They’re made up names. In many ancient civilizations people who chose the path of enlightenment had different societal expectations and traits attributed to them than Men & Women did

2018-03-24 14:39:49 UTC  

gender isn't based on social norms, its based on traits from biological sex

2018-03-24 14:40:00 UTC  

And okay

2018-03-24 14:40:09 UTC  

lets assume theres a gender from rejecting both urges

2018-03-24 14:40:18 UTC  

then there must also be one to embrace both

2018-03-24 14:40:21 UTC  

its polar opposite

2018-03-24 14:40:24 UTC  

so Omnigendered

2018-03-24 14:40:51 UTC  

and if you have taht, why not a Hexamale-Quadrofem gender where you're 60% male and 40% female?

2018-03-24 14:41:07 UTC  

Except it’s fundamentally impossible to take on both the traditional roles of men & women in any given society

2018-03-24 14:41:24 UTC  

yes there is actually, its called the nanystate

2018-03-24 14:41:29 UTC  

where you both provide and nurture the people 😛

2018-03-24 14:41:31 UTC  

Why do you think single parent households are universally worse than 2 parent ones

2018-03-24 14:41:48 UTC  

Because a single person can’t possibly fill both roles at once

2018-03-24 14:42:13 UTC  

they can actually, those households are usually worse because the parents DON'T fill both roles, and don't have the time to either