Message from @Deller
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but i still find myself in disagreement towards this
Gender is simply a generalisation of "In a large group of men, most will exhibit these traits" same with wamen
And this is still defined in any culture
In the middle east, Men are considered the stronger ones because in their nature they are supposed to be the strong alpha ones in general
In China you had the one child policy where the people prefered to have boys because they were more advantageous for a family to have because men in general can carry more weight
One of my favorite societies & cultures to ever exist was the Iroquois League that inhabited precolonial New York & Pennsylvania. Sadly they’re basically extinct today because, the right of Conquest is a thing
Despite what Hollywood movies like Avatar may show us, Gun > Stick
but if yuo break stick
then you have two stick
stick win every time
I mean, yes, in modern eastern culture the 3rd gender is basically dead
The 3rd gender basically died universally when abrahamic religion took over the world
Because abrahamic religions are patriarchal in nature
but im saying there can't be a 3rd gender because genders are derived from the traits found in the biological sexes
for a 3rd gender to exist you need a 3rd sex
I’m saying the 3rd is derived from the null
You can’t magically become null.
and how is that defined? cuz it sounds like the "agender" bull that tumblrists preach
Basically.
If the number of sexes is n the number of genders is n + 1. One for each sex, and one for the people who basically abandon all earthly ties
The difference is tumblr’s idea of agender is “I don’t like male or female so I pick neither”
not acting on your impulses is not creating a different gender
these "enlightened" people still had the same general traits associated with their sex, they just chose not to act on it
like celebate people in churches
Which is quite different from “I wonder the earth in search of enlightenment while abandoning the desires of the flesh”
It’s called asexual. It’s not a new gender.
And if you believe in a spiritual third gender then you have no argument against all the genders SJWs have made up.
There’s a difference between being asexual, and living without material possessions, any major bonds with other people, and surviving off the bare minimum
being a minimalist doesn't make you a 3rd gender though
its like those vulcans from star trek
they still had emotion, they just suppressed it
a celebate minimalist is still part of their original gender, they just suppress the impulses and urgest commonly associated with said sex/gender
Vulcans also lived among themselves in a society and fit into 2 distinct roles
And are also completely fictional
as are 3rd genders
Again, it would depend on how you defined gender. If you defined it based on societal roles and norms, the 3rd option has existed historically in ancient civilization. That’s what I base the difference on. There are no societal norms associated with any of the genders Tumblr’s created. They’re made up names. In many ancient civilizations people who chose the path of enlightenment had different societal expectations and traits attributed to them than Men & Women did
gender isn't based on social norms, its based on traits from biological sex
And okay
lets assume theres a gender from rejecting both urges
then there must also be one to embrace both
its polar opposite
so Omnigendered
and if you have taht, why not a Hexamale-Quadrofem gender where you're 60% male and 40% female?
Except it’s fundamentally impossible to take on both the traditional roles of men & women in any given society
yes there is actually, its called the nanystate