Message from @Dr.Wol

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2018-03-24 14:40:09 UTC  

lets assume theres a gender from rejecting both urges

2018-03-24 14:40:18 UTC  

then there must also be one to embrace both

2018-03-24 14:40:21 UTC  

its polar opposite

2018-03-24 14:40:24 UTC  

so Omnigendered

2018-03-24 14:40:51 UTC  

and if you have taht, why not a Hexamale-Quadrofem gender where you're 60% male and 40% female?

2018-03-24 14:41:07 UTC  

Except it’s fundamentally impossible to take on both the traditional roles of men & women in any given society

2018-03-24 14:41:24 UTC  

yes there is actually, its called the nanystate

2018-03-24 14:41:29 UTC  

where you both provide and nurture the people 😛

2018-03-24 14:41:31 UTC  

Why do you think single parent households are universally worse than 2 parent ones

2018-03-24 14:41:48 UTC  

Because a single person can’t possibly fill both roles at once

2018-03-24 14:42:13 UTC  

they can actually, those households are usually worse because the parents DON'T fill both roles, and don't have the time to either

2018-03-24 14:42:16 UTC  

Work at home dads are a thing.

2018-03-24 14:42:28 UTC  

Can work and watch the kids.

2018-03-24 14:43:09 UTC  

raisign a child is a full time job, so either be a parent 100% and have no work/other stuff to do

or divide it taht one works and is a parent 50%, and the other cleans/etc and parents 50%

2018-03-24 14:43:32 UTC  

The nannystate would mean the person working has taken on the traditional male role, and the nanny has taken on the traditional female role.

2018-03-24 14:43:48 UTC  

yes and a nannystate fulfills both

2018-03-24 14:44:00 UTC  

its a strongarm taht provides, and nurtures

2018-03-24 14:44:27 UTC  

Yes but the single parent isn’t fulfilling both roles, someone else is filling the female role, they just happen to pay that person instead of marry them

2018-03-24 14:44:54 UTC  

its still the same influence

2018-03-24 14:45:03 UTC  

but if we go back, you said you base gender on social views

2018-03-24 14:45:22 UTC  

and that means you consider gender a social construct, like those people that think gender is a spectrum

2018-03-24 14:45:27 UTC  

Who’s raising & nurturing the child, the working parent or the nanny?

2018-03-24 14:45:50 UTC  

as i said, if a parent doesn't need to work and clean, they can literally be both

2018-03-24 14:46:21 UTC  

So someone else is taking over the traditional roles of the female

2018-03-24 14:46:27 UTC  

the issue is a lack of time

Hence parenting works best as a couple, one works to provide, and the other settles the home front, and you both divide the child-time

2018-03-24 14:46:47 UTC  

no, i said that a 100% parent can do both

2018-03-24 14:46:51 UTC  

cleaning isn't a traditional female role

2018-03-24 14:47:22 UTC  

It may not be anymore, but it sure as hell was 60 years ago

2018-03-24 14:47:29 UTC  

also wrong

2018-03-24 14:47:38 UTC  

its nurturing that is the female role

2018-03-24 14:47:49 UTC  

and yes, living in a clean household is better

2018-03-24 14:47:52 UTC  

hence we do it

2018-03-24 14:48:19 UTC  

and the reason it was the female job 60 years ago

2018-03-24 14:48:25 UTC  

is because the men would be working all day

2018-03-24 14:48:40 UTC  

so they'd either have to clean after

Or the woman does it whilst the man works for provisions

2018-03-24 14:49:08 UTC  

The traditional American female role as always been the homekeeper. This was everything from child raising, to household chores such as laundry, cooking, & cleaning

2018-03-24 14:49:32 UTC  

for the reasons i said above

2018-03-24 14:49:35 UTC  

Being a home keeper was a full time job before modern technology

2018-03-24 14:49:44 UTC  

waht if you're a millionaire, or a lord?

The lady of the house didn't clean either

2018-03-24 14:49:48 UTC  

Now work isn’t always manual labour that requires you to be outside the house so men can also have more time to clean or raise kids.

2018-03-24 14:49:56 UTC  

you'd have workers do it