Message from @Arch-Fiend

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2018-06-24 03:28:51 UTC  

It’s attention whoring with the intention of being treated better than others.

2018-06-24 03:33:10 UTC  

Then again thats all really.

2018-06-24 03:33:23 UTC  

Even tje attention one receives is reward enough.

2018-06-24 03:34:00 UTC  

Reminds me of that monster that drowed her two kids and then begged some imaginary kidnapper to retern them both. Made national news.

2018-06-24 06:08:35 UTC  
2018-06-24 06:22:03 UTC  

If by “porn literate” he means realize that shit is just as fictional as Hollywood or a Tolkien novel I agree

2018-06-24 06:24:22 UTC  

You’re never going to convince a kid to not watch porn if they want to

2018-06-24 07:48:03 UTC  

Imagine if someone who is in their early 20s thinks that Santa exists.

2018-06-24 07:48:54 UTC  

They're delusional to the point that they go to the mall and see 'Santa' every year, convinced it's the real guy.

2018-06-24 07:50:03 UTC  

We should NOT be in a society where we are expected to confirm that Santa exists, that that's the real Santa, that everything that they believe is true.

2018-06-24 07:50:27 UTC  

Just because they feel it is.

2018-06-24 07:51:34 UTC  

That does not mean we shouldn't have some degree of sympathy for the person who thinks Santa is real. But enforcing delusion is not constructive.

2018-06-24 07:53:48 UTC  

What some would call degeneracy, I call either personal choice (If they only involve themselves) or child abuse (if they hauck it off on their kids). People should have the rights to live their own lives as they see fit, provided it doesn't harm anyone else. But there are certain things that are, in fact, considered Normal. And not by society, but by biology.

2018-06-24 07:56:10 UTC  

Things such as heterosexuality, in some regard, being a necessity of perpetual life, Males and Females having different chemical compositions in their brains and bodies, adapting them for different tasks, generally speaking... stuff provable like that. And anyone who denies shit like that may as well be preaching a flat earth.

2018-06-24 09:07:30 UTC  

flat earthers are the better alternative here.

2018-06-24 09:46:57 UTC  

Atleast flat earthers are harmless

2018-06-24 09:47:23 UTC  

Feminists seem to be encouraging children into drag and get hormones

2018-06-24 15:54:10 UTC  

"Encourage". More like force really.

2018-06-24 15:54:20 UTC  

The kids in most cases do not get a choice in the matter.

2018-06-24 20:10:53 UTC  

https://www.twitch.tv/caligator come join for DM Corner

2018-06-24 20:16:59 UTC  

@RyeNorth I'd say otherwise, that we need to get into the habit of proving shit. because if we don't, then those delusions settle inside and become belief, and belief is hard as fuck to remove even with direct contradictory evidence

2018-06-24 20:18:53 UTC  

I think we agree more than we disagree.

2018-06-24 20:19:56 UTC  

I agree

2018-06-24 20:20:05 UTC  

The nuance is that, I don't think you can convince a flat-earther they're wrong if they're dead set on it.

2018-06-24 20:21:10 UTC  

nor can you convince male who thinks they should've been a female that they're wrong. That shouldn't change the way YOU operate.

2018-06-24 20:22:04 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398973785426100234/460540135633584128/image.jpg

2018-06-24 20:22:08 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398973785426100234/460540149655273473/image.jpg

2018-06-24 20:25:57 UTC  

discussions like that hinge upon the person seeing how they're wrong or right

2018-06-24 20:26:20 UTC  

which is difficult to do that with the standard approach people take to arguing: I'm right, you're wrong, here's why

2018-06-24 20:26:46 UTC  

when you argue like that, rather than being about finding any sort of truth, it becomes a childish fight

2018-06-24 20:28:01 UTC  

and topics as wide as the one you just brought up, you'd have to find an element within what they're saying in order for them to start to realize how it doesn't make sense, which is difficult without being able to latch on to something that they say specifically to show that it doesn't

2018-06-24 20:29:05 UTC  

those arguments are kinda difficult to get into because you can't focus on that element of what's definitely true, it puts us all in this weird arguing stance no matter what

2018-06-24 20:30:24 UTC  

ex. I dunno the sex of anyone here, but let's say you're male. I argue that you're female. you wouldn't dismiss that in quite the same way as you'd dismiss a flat earther. but if I say something like that, you have something you can go to immediately to show that that's wrong. you show me a picture of your dick (don't get any ideas), I lose that argument immediately

2018-06-24 20:36:29 UTC  

where's the flat earth dick pic? you show them that, then they'll get it

2018-06-24 20:44:20 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398973785426100234/460545739697815552/mavicair_meteor.png

2018-06-24 20:44:23 UTC  

Flat earth confirmed.

2018-06-24 20:57:19 UTC  

The problem is, for most of the people affected by these things, truth is subjective for them, not objective. Attempts to explain a round earth to someone who believes in a flat earth fall short because they need proof (And most of the means of getting proof of this are more time consuming than they care for). And they've got ways of dismissing your arguments, I.E. dismissing photos of the curvature of the earth with the existence of a fisheye lens.

Similarly, someone who's affected by gender dysphoria is going to be convinced of their truth.

2018-06-24 20:59:38 UTC  

Trying to convince me that I'm female when I know I'm male isn't a good example, though. It's worth noting that someone who thinks they're female, despite having physiological differences otherwise has already dismissed the tangible evidence to the contrary.

2018-06-24 21:05:08 UTC  

The problem, I think you'd agree, is the culture of confirmation that's being created, not the issues themselves.