Message from @samoja

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2018-10-10 02:59:20 UTC  

For the actions taken? Not in the least. I feel it sends the implied message that the influenced isn't entirely responsible for their own actions, that others are in part to blame. In truth that individual made a conscious decision to do what ever act they committed. They alone are to blame for performing it.

Holding others accountable also runs the risk of punishing those for things being taken out of context and acted upon. Some might take jokes seriously or hyperbolic comments when the person making them had no real intent to endorse said things.

2018-10-10 05:48:22 UTC  

So you are saying if i say “go kys” to someone its not my fault they did it or is it cyberbullying

2018-10-10 05:54:33 UTC  

Just yeet them my dude

2018-10-10 07:33:38 UTC  

If someone kills themselves over that, they probably deserve it. The world isn't made for the weak

2018-10-10 07:41:08 UTC  

@Deleted User It's not your fault if they did even if it were cyber bullying. At the end of the day we decide what actions we take. The only real exceptions are when our intelligence is so low that we are not legally able to take care of ourselves. In those cases I can see holding someone responsible as it would be manipulating someone who couldn't know better. For the vast majority of the population however they have the capacity to think about their actions and how they might impact others or even just themselves then carefully consider whether or not they should go through with it.

2018-10-10 07:43:17 UTC  

Frankly, to me, it's not much different from the age old "well if your friends did this..." where someone attempts to justify their actions by pointing to others. What others say or do is moot and doesn't justify our own actions and they should not feel any sense of responsibility lifted because of that.

2018-10-10 17:05:05 UTC  

@Infidelcastro That's a pretty harsh pov

2018-10-10 17:14:31 UTC  

Cyberbullying is just. Words really online

2018-10-10 17:15:31 UTC  

Problem is its not a cyberbullying issue, its a mental issue. We dont really have a system in place to find disturbed individuals online. And such a system will require a humungous amount of survelience bordering on the authoritharian

2018-10-10 17:15:57 UTC  

Im talking how easy it is to actually trigger schinzophrenics or actual crazies out there.

2018-10-10 17:16:09 UTC  

When you put a magnifying glass to their behaviour.

2018-10-10 18:34:41 UTC  

Cyberbullying isn't just. It's cowardly and shows one as weak enough that they had to resort to lowly tactics. It is generally bad and frowned upon if you harass, threatens or doxx someone.

2018-10-10 18:35:11 UTC  

Rather than saying "go kys", just say "go fuck yourself"

2018-10-10 18:45:29 UTC  

I think the line is between the digital and meatspace.

2018-10-10 18:46:30 UTC  

If you want to call me a chode, go ahead. Mail me 4 inch dildoes to my home address to make your point and we've got a problem.

2018-10-10 18:46:55 UTC  

Seriously. 4 inches too smol

2018-10-10 18:47:05 UTC  

Chode.

2018-10-10 21:18:38 UTC  

Hey guys, i think we should rename Social Justice Warriors into Social Justice Crusaders, i believe that term would be much more accurate

2018-10-10 21:20:36 UTC  

It does a disservice to crusaders.

2018-10-10 21:23:59 UTC  

Not really, 4th Crusade set out to stop the muslims and in the end they sacked Constantinople and allowed the Turks to take it few decades later, not to mention they conquered several christian towns to pay for transport on board Venetian ships, it's a perfect allegory for someone who thinks they are doing the right thing and is so convinced in their own righteousness that they can't see they are doing the exact opposite of what they set out to do

2018-10-11 02:18:16 UTC  

Just call them "Far-left extremists".

2018-10-11 02:18:32 UTC  

Or "Far-left identitarian extremists"

2018-10-11 02:59:15 UTC  

Or just Lefterrorist

2018-10-11 03:11:56 UTC  

!rank

2018-10-11 03:11:57 UTC  

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2018-10-11 04:53:03 UTC  

why not call them with their real name?
daam communists

2018-10-11 05:03:05 UTC  

because they aren't always

2018-10-11 05:03:26 UTC  

same as calling unreasonable right wingers fascists, its just muddying of words

2018-10-11 05:12:19 UTC  

usefull idiots for marxist ideology.*what ever...*

2018-10-11 05:13:07 UTC  

and implying acctual fascism is bad.
left just uses it as buzz word.

2018-10-11 05:59:26 UTC  

ugh, this again

people hate fascism for almost the exact reasons they hate communism

it's tyrannical governments and the diminishing of individuality that people hate about these ideologies
people want freedom and liberty, and these ideologies are against that

hell, by today's far-left definition of fascist Karl Marx himself was a _big fat fascist_, ironically
he was a supporter of ethnic cleansing and extermination of jews

2018-10-11 06:13:02 UTC  

oh the horse shoe theory.😄

at what point you start to consider healty of your nation to be valuable?
instead of always looking at your own belly, and me me me.
look at absolute state of US, its degenerated to so low level, and will keep continue to do so if nothing is done to fight against it.

and far-left defination doesnt matter at all. they call everyone they disagree as fascist nazi.

2018-10-11 06:14:59 UTC  

It's not even horseshoe theory, it's being being an authoritarian on the libertarian/authoritarian scale
_THAT_ is what people have a problem with

2018-10-11 06:15:21 UTC  

communism and fascism are not the same

but they're both authoritarian

2018-10-11 06:17:14 UTC  

still, it is funny to point out how Karl Marx was a supporter of most of the fascist's main talking points

2018-10-11 06:18:37 UTC  

Yeah, some people on the right think that just because someone is opposed to left wing authoritarians that someone is automatically open to supporting right wing authoritarians, oh and BTW we all know what NAZI means, left wing thinks people will forget that both NAZI and Fascist ideologies arose from the left.

2018-10-11 06:19:13 UTC  

I wouldn't call fascism left

2018-10-11 06:19:19 UTC  

wanting libery is fine and dandy.
but at what are you going to do against marxist subversion? degeneracy? you will lose all libertys if you let marxist do what they want.

2018-10-11 06:19:55 UTC  

It's a fact, Fascist party was originally left wing, that's how they first took power

2018-10-11 06:20:07 UTC  

people are already getting tired of their bullshit

it's why trump just keeps winning and winning

fascism is not needed

crawl back into your hole