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2018-10-10 21:12:59 UTC [Subverse #new-member-alert]  

2018-10-10 21:13:36 UTC [Subverse #bot-commands]  

!agree

2018-10-10 21:14:23 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Hey guys

2018-10-10 21:16:19 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Did anyone else see this TV tropes page? https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/KnightTemplar i was reading it and it rang so familiar]

2018-10-10 21:18:38 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Hey guys, i think we should rename Social Justice Warriors into Social Justice Crusaders, i believe that term would be much more accurate

2018-10-10 21:23:59 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Not really, 4th Crusade set out to stop the muslims and in the end they sacked Constantinople and allowed the Turks to take it few decades later, not to mention they conquered several christian towns to pay for transport on board Venetian ships, it's a perfect allegory for someone who thinks they are doing the right thing and is so convinced in their own righteousness that they can't see they are doing the exact opposite of what they set out to do

2018-10-11 06:18:37 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Yeah, some people on the right think that just because someone is opposed to left wing authoritarians that someone is automatically open to supporting right wing authoritarians, oh and BTW we all know what NAZI means, left wing thinks people will forget that both NAZI and Fascist ideologies arose from the left.

2018-10-11 06:19:55 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

It's a fact, Fascist party was originally left wing, that's how they first took power

2018-10-11 06:25:11 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Left today almost fully transformed into quasi religion.

2018-10-11 06:25:23 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

They believe they are right no matter what

2018-10-11 06:26:30 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

it's almost exactly like a knight templar trope, it's errie

2018-10-11 06:29:05 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

If you mean guys like Tim and Dave Rubin they may as well be right as far as mainstream left is concerned

2018-10-11 06:29:33 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

it's the good old if tou are not with us you are against us

2018-10-11 06:31:10 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

I am talking about the establishment, Democratic party, the media, magazines, websites. They may be 5% but the other 95% gets their info from them

2018-10-11 06:31:54 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

there were only about 1000 actual members of the NAZI party, you don't need many people to create a massive shitstorm

2018-10-11 06:32:34 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

just a few in right positions to steer all the sheep where you want them

2018-10-11 06:32:45 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

sheep are still sheep

2018-10-11 06:34:35 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Look at this, still relevant over 70 years later

2018-10-11 06:35:34 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

oh sorry, that one is not in english

2018-10-11 06:40:30 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Jasse you can't be serious, NAZIs would have collapsed within a few years if there was no war, they defaulted on their debt to US and the war reparations, by the end iof the war they were fully dependant on the slave labor to sustain themselves, NAZI efficiency is nothing but a myth

2018-10-11 06:43:15 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

So they replaced symbolic slavery with actual slavery, in the mean time SS and Gestapo roamed the streets and beat up/arrested/killed anyone who dared to make a peep against the government, no thanks

2018-10-11 06:43:54 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

No, it was because idiots in the government started printing money

2018-10-11 06:45:25 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

They thought they wopuld devalue the currency so much that the money they owed would be minuscule, too bad they did not realize for some fucking reason that the money they owed was to be paid in gold

2018-10-11 06:46:59 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

I know all that

2018-10-11 06:47:11 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

but back then it was still backed by gold

2018-10-11 06:47:40 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

which means that Germany had exactly as much money as it had gold

2018-10-11 06:48:03 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

no matter the number of papers they printed

2018-10-11 06:48:41 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

That was their own damn fault

2018-10-11 06:51:54 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

You are delusional, they printed money until it was basically worthless, and then they just pulled it back and issued a new currency, and the whole thing could start again, it's an age old trick, just erase a few hundred zeros, it solved nothing, people still lost everything in the inflation bubble, but now they could carry what little money they owned in their pocket instead of a garbage bag

2018-10-11 06:57:15 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

So you just repeated your previous points that i already refuted? If you don't have a new argument why bother typing at all, i was unconvinced the first time, why do you think you will convince me the second time?

2018-10-11 06:59:21 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Actually it was the military that was pushing for the war, the war i might add they had no bussiness getting involved in, the issue was between Austria and Serbia

2018-10-11 07:01:37 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

And then they foolishly shoot themselves in the foot not once but twice, first when they invaded Belgium, dragging GB into the war against them, and then when they started sinking international ships dragging US into the war, in both cases they wanted a quick fix and failed miserably

2018-10-11 07:07:47 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Murder of Franz Ferdinand was what kicked the whole thing off, but then Austria(under german influence, b ecause Germany was in fact just waiting for the excuse to go to war) posed wholly unreasonable set of demands to Serbia, that basically demanded Austrian police be given full jusristiction on Serbian territory. Serbia refused, obviously, but they proposed the compromise, they would fulfill all the other demands posed by Austria sans letting Austrian police have juristiction in Serbia (which basically means Serbia gave over their authonomy). Austria refused and declared war.

2018-10-11 07:22:33 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Federal Reserve has nothiong to do with WW1

2018-10-11 07:25:24 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Besides it does not even make sense, war destroys the economy, and ruins trade relations, there is literally no reason for rich magnates to support the war, and every reason to oppose it, you may not realize this but people who built massive multinational companies tend not to be stupid

2018-10-11 07:26:38 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Only i9f their contry is not directly involved

2018-10-11 07:51:04 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

I fail to see how this is relevant in any way

2018-10-11 07:52:37 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

THere is cryptocurrency if you are so worried about the banks you are free to use that

2018-10-11 08:03:07 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

#Jasse are you aware that you are using purely US institution to argue in favor of a regime that arose in Germany, they have nothing to do with each other whatsoever

2018-10-11 08:07:20 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

German banking system was nothing like US federal reserve, nothing at all, and even if it was, how is centralized banking system controlled by the government any better? We have a word for that system, it's called socialism

2018-10-11 08:08:24 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Yeah, it's jews fault that NAZI paramilitary thugs were roaming the streets and beating people up for not supporting the NAZI party, sounds familiar?

2018-10-11 08:11:09 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

It sounds like that because that's exactly what it was, and that's not the first time in history that was happening, it goes all the way to ancient Rome. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wA1jtqYJRis

2018-10-11 08:14:31 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Weimar Republic was created by the Antante at the end of WW1, it never had a chance, it was composed of equal parts monarchists who wanted a return to the old system and NAZI sympathisers

2018-10-11 08:15:07 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

There were little to no actual republicans in the Weimar Republic

2018-10-11 08:24:59 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

That's non argument Jasse, whether or not they were thrown out of some coun try is completely irelevant, there can be thousands of reasons for that, and majority of those have something to do with prejudice

2018-10-11 08:27:05 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Infinite ok, them being thrown out is not and never ahs been an argument, if you pile zeros on top of each other you still have a zero

2018-10-11 08:27:22 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

non argument is still a non argument no matter how many examples you have

2018-10-11 08:28:31 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

What shit? Being thrown out of the country?

2018-10-11 08:28:53 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

I'm pretty sure that's on the government

2018-10-11 08:30:48 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

I mean they musta done something to deserve it right? Just like all those people attacked by Antifa, surely they are all secretly white supremacists

2018-10-11 08:33:33 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Many groups claim victim cards, Jews, Muslims, Women, Christians, in fact Christians are masterminds of playing the victim, they did it before everyone else

2018-10-11 08:35:34 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

That time being 2000 years ago, i think when you pretty much rule the whole civilized world it's time to let go of your victim status but nope

2018-10-11 08:42:00 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Crusades were a failure, they in fact helped the Muslims in the long run, by weakening the Byzantines to the point where Turks could basically just walk in, i won't debate whether they were justified or not but they were a disaster for sure

2018-10-11 08:43:14 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

-Mein Kampf

2018-10-11 08:44:42 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Forgive me for not taking seriously the words of a guy who literally thought he was second coming.

2018-10-11 08:48:09 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

There is fair bit of evidence pointing to the fact Jesus never even existed in the first place

2018-10-11 08:50:58 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

In Jewish religion Jeshua was sort of god's high priest, mirroring the high priest of temple in Jerusalem, at the time Christianity arose there were so called salvation cults that basically took the Greek idea of afterlife and mixed it with local deity, those salvation cults follow a certain pattern and Christianity fits within it almost perfectly

2018-10-11 08:52:23 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Almost all of those religions arose from Christianity

2018-10-11 09:08:31 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

The fact is most people can't in fact afford to buy things that are not cheap, principles are costly, not everyone can afford them

2018-10-11 09:13:52 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

There is a reason why we got rid of it tho, let's not pretend past was all rosy, exploitation of the workers was rife, 18 hour work days 7 days a week, meager salary, non existent safety regulations, at one point 200 people died in a fire because the company manager locked the exit to prevent people from taking a break. Everything in oderation.

2018-10-11 09:17:10 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

No, what we ave now is capitalism at it's finest, that was capitalism gone mad

2018-10-11 09:19:13 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Well, finest when compared to all that came before it, and when i say now i should clarify i mean 5the last 30 odd years

2018-10-11 09:27:13 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

I know that, you don't need to tell me, labor is a comodity, just like any other, but people don't realize that.

2018-10-11 09:29:57 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

People want others to take care of them, they don't want to take responsibility for their own life, if your boss is underpaying you seek anothr job or get educated and change careers.

2018-10-11 09:30:57 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

If you are selling your product to someone and they are not paying you enough to cover your expenses stop selling to that person.

2018-10-11 18:23:56 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

What good is it to even help if you are not going to do it long term, i think it's the exact opposite, if you want to help be prepared to go all in, and see it trough to the end for as long as it takes, and it may well take generations, if you are not ready to do that then keep your nose out of other people's bussiness, going on an adventure for a few years in a third world country helps no one, either you are in or you are out, and if you are in you better damn well be ready to stick it trough to the end.

2018-10-11 19:11:32 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

That's literally the only proven way to do it, it may not be nice but we know it works

2018-10-11 19:11:54 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Imperialism i mean

2018-10-11 19:15:37 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Or we could sit back and do nothing, order is unlikely to be born out of chaos, so those African countries are likely to stay under the chokehold of local warlords and tribal militias for a very, very long time

2018-10-11 19:31:23 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

I doubt it, after all African and North American cultures remained in virtual stone age for millenia, people tend to stick to what they know unless there is an upheval of some sort, or they are forced to change their ways at the point of a gun, rarely

2018-10-11 19:31:37 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

if ever do they change peacefully

2018-10-11 19:32:03 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

in other word every change is inevitably going to be messy

2018-10-13 09:22:15 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

The question is whether or not Icelandic black women have 4, 5 or even sometimes 6 children all fathered by different fathers none of which know or care about their offspring? It's not just about being born out of wedlock, it's about having both parents or just one.

2018-10-14 07:53:59 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Of course Fetus is a human, there is no magical point where Fetus turns from non human to human, it's just convenient to pretend it's not, just like at one point it was convenient to pretend black people were not human, it's the same shit. If i learned anything about humans it's that they will twist themselves into a knot to justify their actions no matter how abhorrent they may be.

2018-10-14 11:43:40 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Libtards and consistent does not belong together in a sentence.

2018-10-14 20:47:29 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Look, furries can be really disgusting, i know there was a furry convention a few years back and they trashed the place so bad nobody wants to host them, i am talking diapers full of shit all over the place, bottles and empty wrappers covering the floot, broken furniture and more, but saying all that just being a furry is not a crime, being a paedophile is.

2018-10-14 20:49:51 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Who is divves or Minus8, never heard of them

2018-10-14 20:51:01 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Anyone ca animate Porn, there is a program out there called Poser, it's ridiculously easy

2018-10-14 20:53:51 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

@GingaBomber good luck with that dude

2018-10-14 20:56:03 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

The absolute worst thing a parent can do if he wants to keep a kid from doing something of the sexual nature is to say "you can't do that", it's almost guaranteed to get the kid interested in that exact thing.

2018-10-14 20:57:36 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

They will just go behind your back, and added excitement of the forbidden fruit will make it all the more attractive

2018-10-14 21:00:01 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Let's just say it this way, the best way to keep your kid from a particular fetish is to subtly imply you like it yourself, now it's that "dad thing", and there is nothing less sexy then that on the planet

2018-10-14 21:02:36 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

If your kid is getting off on incest you have a bigger problem then what porn they choose to watch

2018-10-14 21:13:38 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Well, welcome to the fascist side, we have cookies

2018-10-14 21:16:35 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Funny, NAZIs used to justify their crimes by pointing a finger at socialists, now socialists are justifying their crimes by pointing at NAZIs

2018-10-14 21:21:44 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Sorry you lost me, what are you talking about?

2018-10-15 11:57:02 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

May i point out that you are only a cuck if you are turned on by your wife fucking another dude, if you are not then you are just a sucker

2018-10-26 13:57:17 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I just saw a billboard for the new Dr who, i kid you not they named it "it's about time"

2018-10-26 13:57:43 UTC [Subverse #general]  

i was like are you E*cking serious right now.

2018-10-26 13:59:47 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I never even liked Dr who, but seriously, this is Holdo level of preachy SJW bullshit

2018-10-26 14:03:15 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Personally i think it's just a loon, whether he is left loon or right loon is not really relevant, i doubt it was organized.

2018-10-26 14:05:07 UTC [Subverse #general]  

?

2018-10-26 14:06:27 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I don't really follow sargon anymore

2018-10-26 14:07:41 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I saw that one, i disagree with his conclusions but i see his point

2018-10-26 14:09:23 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Personally i think that the system envisioned by Heinlen would be ripe for abuse, and very vulnerable to a takeover by fringe extremists

2018-10-26 14:12:56 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Is weed legal in Canada?

2018-10-26 14:14:26 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Wow, you mean 9 days ago

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