Message from @samoja
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Yea if someone reports an influencer for their follower's doxing someone the influencer shouldn't be punished unless there is a direct order from the influencer.
For the actions taken? Not in the least. I feel it sends the implied message that the influenced isn't entirely responsible for their own actions, that others are in part to blame. In truth that individual made a conscious decision to do what ever act they committed. They alone are to blame for performing it.
Holding others accountable also runs the risk of punishing those for things being taken out of context and acted upon. Some might take jokes seriously or hyperbolic comments when the person making them had no real intent to endorse said things.
So you are saying if i say “go kys” to someone its not my fault they did it or is it cyberbullying
Just yeet them my dude
If someone kills themselves over that, they probably deserve it. The world isn't made for the weak
@Deleted User It's not your fault if they did even if it were cyber bullying. At the end of the day we decide what actions we take. The only real exceptions are when our intelligence is so low that we are not legally able to take care of ourselves. In those cases I can see holding someone responsible as it would be manipulating someone who couldn't know better. For the vast majority of the population however they have the capacity to think about their actions and how they might impact others or even just themselves then carefully consider whether or not they should go through with it.
Frankly, to me, it's not much different from the age old "well if your friends did this..." where someone attempts to justify their actions by pointing to others. What others say or do is moot and doesn't justify our own actions and they should not feel any sense of responsibility lifted because of that.
@Infidelcastro That's a pretty harsh pov
Cyberbullying is just. Words really online
Problem is its not a cyberbullying issue, its a mental issue. We dont really have a system in place to find disturbed individuals online. And such a system will require a humungous amount of survelience bordering on the authoritharian
Im talking how easy it is to actually trigger schinzophrenics or actual crazies out there.
When you put a magnifying glass to their behaviour.
Cyberbullying isn't just. It's cowardly and shows one as weak enough that they had to resort to lowly tactics. It is generally bad and frowned upon if you harass, threatens or doxx someone.
Rather than saying "go kys", just say "go fuck yourself"
I think the line is between the digital and meatspace.
If you want to call me a chode, go ahead. Mail me 4 inch dildoes to my home address to make your point and we've got a problem.
Seriously. 4 inches too smol
Chode.
Hey guys, i think we should rename Social Justice Warriors into Social Justice Crusaders, i believe that term would be much more accurate
It does a disservice to crusaders.
Not really, 4th Crusade set out to stop the muslims and in the end they sacked Constantinople and allowed the Turks to take it few decades later, not to mention they conquered several christian towns to pay for transport on board Venetian ships, it's a perfect allegory for someone who thinks they are doing the right thing and is so convinced in their own righteousness that they can't see they are doing the exact opposite of what they set out to do
Just call them "Far-left extremists".
Or "Far-left identitarian extremists"
Or just Lefterrorist
!rank
why not call them with their real name?
daam communists
because they aren't always
same as calling unreasonable right wingers fascists, its just muddying of words
usefull idiots for marxist ideology.*what ever...*
and implying acctual fascism is bad.
left just uses it as buzz word.
ugh, this again
people hate fascism for almost the exact reasons they hate communism
it's tyrannical governments and the diminishing of individuality that people hate about these ideologies
people want freedom and liberty, and these ideologies are against that
hell, by today's far-left definition of fascist Karl Marx himself was a _big fat fascist_, ironically
he was a supporter of ethnic cleansing and extermination of jews
oh the horse shoe theory.😄
at what point you start to consider healty of your nation to be valuable?
instead of always looking at your own belly, and me me me.
look at absolute state of US, its degenerated to so low level, and will keep continue to do so if nothing is done to fight against it.
and far-left defination doesnt matter at all. they call everyone they disagree as fascist nazi.
It's not even horseshoe theory, it's being being an authoritarian on the libertarian/authoritarian scale
_THAT_ is what people have a problem with
communism and fascism are not the same
but they're both authoritarian
still, it is funny to point out how Karl Marx was a supporter of most of the fascist's main talking points
Yeah, some people on the right think that just because someone is opposed to left wing authoritarians that someone is automatically open to supporting right wing authoritarians, oh and BTW we all know what NAZI means, left wing thinks people will forget that both NAZI and Fascist ideologies arose from the left.
I wouldn't call fascism left
wanting libery is fine and dandy.
but at what are you going to do against marxist subversion? degeneracy? you will lose all libertys if you let marxist do what they want.