im indifferent, to me free-speech for such conversations lead to one of two things:
If it IS just a joke all along, good on him
If he's real, its just more rope for the noose around the argument

We've had some fun arguments with him in the past.

"We tried." - Subverse, probably.

Granted, I would be very satisfied if he left of his own accord... 😛

Debates and spirited conversations about Net Neutrality are far more interesting.

Community run internet nodes. The solution to net neutrality

What's the closest parallel we have to that. Ham radio? Tor network?

It's already in digital form.

We've got Torrenting

and Blockchain

Only thing that's missing is the actual infrastructure then. Unless you suggest we just buy it off ISPs.

Oh, unless he's talking about infrastrucutre.

I guess I missed that.

Yes

Each town or city having their own internet node, hooked into an internet backbone

That puts government in the mix

and takes out open market.

I don't think you could fully decentralise to that degree without something going wrong.

Backbone access costs I think 1500 a month or so. A node I think costs between 5000 and 10000 in equipment. Plus what it costs to install the lines to the backbone or buy off the isp

You ever try tor?

It's a horrible user experience.

Tor is not the same as a node.

I'm referring to rye's comment about avoiding any sort of community-owned thing.

Owned? Run? Something like that.

@RyeNorth technically it's only the city government IF the community goes through the local government. Rather than someone setting it up on their own and offering local service. for a fee.

Right now the problem IS the government.

In a lot of places they make it all but impossible to create and isp start up.

Only problem with something like that would be not being able to really guarantee any certainty of uptime.

Well, that would depend on the money put into hardware

You'd have to insure that every node along the way is working.

And wireless only would deeeefinitely be a huge step backwards in stability.

What do you mean? You connect to a backbone network. That is what ISPs hook up to. From there, it's distributed out to the community. You could go the way of your current meshes, which are problematic as they go from router to router, meaning you are going through like 15 routers before getting to the node. Or you set it up for people to Hardline right to hub

The idea of centralizing in a hub is because connection right to a backbone costs that 1500 monthly. Split that costs across several households is better than each household paying for their own connections

Ah I see. When you say replacing the system I was thinking that'd include dropping from both the government and the massive corporations currently running the system.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mashable.com/2018/01/09/mesh-networks-provide-alternative-intenet-connection.amp

Yes, exactly. And it's already a thing. Just need to fine ways to expand it

..Neat.

Under current systems, it would inevitably go through the city, though.

I could see a city crack down on a system like this citing zoning law if they wanted to.

Mesh networking really does look like what HAM radio already uses but for bigger loads.

idk where to put this so ill put it here http://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/article/day-for-freedom-tommy-robinson