Message from @Ikea-Chan

Discord ID: 527296919467196426


2018-12-25 13:50:24 UTC  

I know I'm too low leveled to make the image pop up, but here is a special holiday message from me

2018-12-25 13:50:28 UTC  
2018-12-25 14:33:30 UTC  

I don't imagine it will change any minds but I must use my speech to counter speech I find reprehensible. The Third Reich was evil. It was profane down to its DNA. Read Mein Kampf. Its leaders, other than Hitler perhaps, were thieves. Hitler supported the kleptocracy. Thier treatment of thier disabled, thier misfits, and thier Roma was immoral at best. Thier treatment of Jews was not only criminal but also dumb. They were imperialist and would not have stopped short of world dominion - again read Hitler's own words. The greatest gift to mankind the US has ever given, other than constitutional government itself, was, with extreme prejuduce ridding the world of the Nazi cancer.

2018-12-25 14:42:30 UTC  
2018-12-25 23:22:41 UTC  

@Stefan Payne what are the charges?

2018-12-25 23:49:30 UTC  

???

2018-12-26 00:18:36 UTC  

At least he followed his heart.

His economic turnaround was fantastic

If people could get past him killing a shitload of jews we could talk about the other things he did in office

2018-12-26 01:22:32 UTC  

like set up an expansionistic war economy that failed once germany couldnt expand?

2018-12-26 01:23:35 UTC  

I'm pretty sure any economy would fail when you're being pressured by literally every remaining great power in the world.

2018-12-26 01:23:58 UTC  

Heck, a unified front like that would probably wreck the modern day American economy, let alone a wartime Germany's.

2018-12-26 01:24:15 UTC  

it was failing before germany started the war

2018-12-26 01:24:31 UTC  

What metrics are you looking at for that assertion?

2018-12-26 01:24:58 UTC  

Should we talk about how Germany couldn't have won world war 2?

2018-12-26 01:25:21 UTC  

An easy thing to say in a world where they didn't.

2018-12-26 01:26:44 UTC  

Do you mean they could've won WW2?

2018-12-26 01:27:21 UTC  

Could they have won the World War II that happened? I believe the chances were slim, but possible.

2018-12-26 01:27:37 UTC  

Could they have won variant, hypothetical World War II's? Absolutely.

2018-12-26 01:29:42 UTC  

Their chances were close to zero in winning, they were facing off against three of the biggest world powers at the time.

2018-12-26 01:31:37 UTC  

If they managed to take Britain (unlikely, but so was the capitulation of France), and the colonies took that opportunity to muster independence instead of maintaining a united front, that leaves an isolated Eastern Front. If Russia fell quickly enough, then America could easily look at the situation and decide it's not worth it anymore.

2018-12-26 01:31:46 UTC  

The key is not fighting all the world powers at the same time.

2018-12-26 01:32:07 UTC  

The problem in that is; how do you capitulate Britain?

2018-12-26 01:32:21 UTC  

Churchill talks a fair game.

2018-12-26 01:32:29 UTC  

But so did the French.

2018-12-26 01:32:38 UTC  

Let's compare navies

2018-12-26 01:32:44 UTC  

With a light enough hand and the right propaganda, they could have kept the majority of the populace in line.

2018-12-26 01:33:33 UTC  

Germanys navy was small and they couldn't take losses.

2018-12-26 01:33:55 UTC  

Britains navy was the worlds greatest and could replace their boats.

2018-12-26 01:35:05 UTC  

Now Air Forces

2018-12-26 01:35:20 UTC  

The Luftwaffe could've "broken" the RAF for quite some time

2018-12-26 01:35:48 UTC  

But surrender would still not be.

2018-12-26 01:38:18 UTC  

germany had one chance to win .. .they fucked that chance up when they started WW2

2018-12-26 01:39:25 UTC  

also, re: RAF, only one group was nearly broken, group 11/12 IIRC , three or four other groups were not broken and could have reinforced the broken group. and we were outproducing the germans in aircraft in 42/43 time frame

2018-12-26 01:39:43 UTC  

so, just had to survive the battle of britain which from what I've read was not unlikely

2018-12-26 01:39:50 UTC  

and keep the SLOCs open

2018-12-26 01:40:16 UTC  

I'm not talking 42/43

2018-12-26 01:40:25 UTC  

I'm talking pre-barbarossa

2018-12-26 01:40:35 UTC  

meaning, '40 and '41 germany had no chance

2018-12-26 01:40:48 UTC  

and by '42, that chance had taken a jump to hyperspace