Message from @Ikea-Chan
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damn you for making me agree with you on this
I know I'm too low leveled to make the image pop up, but here is a special holiday message from me
I don't imagine it will change any minds but I must use my speech to counter speech I find reprehensible. The Third Reich was evil. It was profane down to its DNA. Read Mein Kampf. Its leaders, other than Hitler perhaps, were thieves. Hitler supported the kleptocracy. Thier treatment of thier disabled, thier misfits, and thier Roma was immoral at best. Thier treatment of Jews was not only criminal but also dumb. They were imperialist and would not have stopped short of world dominion - again read Hitler's own words. The greatest gift to mankind the US has ever given, other than constitutional government itself, was, with extreme prejuduce ridding the world of the Nazi cancer.
@Stefan Payne what are the charges?
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At least he followed his heart.
His economic turnaround was fantastic
If people could get past him killing a shitload of jews we could talk about the other things he did in office
like set up an expansionistic war economy that failed once germany couldnt expand?
I'm pretty sure any economy would fail when you're being pressured by literally every remaining great power in the world.
Heck, a unified front like that would probably wreck the modern day American economy, let alone a wartime Germany's.
it was failing before germany started the war
What metrics are you looking at for that assertion?
Should we talk about how Germany couldn't have won world war 2?
An easy thing to say in a world where they didn't.
Could they have won the World War II that happened? I believe the chances were slim, but possible.
Could they have won variant, hypothetical World War II's? Absolutely.
Their chances were close to zero in winning, they were facing off against three of the biggest world powers at the time.
If they managed to take Britain (unlikely, but so was the capitulation of France), and the colonies took that opportunity to muster independence instead of maintaining a united front, that leaves an isolated Eastern Front. If Russia fell quickly enough, then America could easily look at the situation and decide it's not worth it anymore.
The key is not fighting all the world powers at the same time.
The problem in that is; how do you capitulate Britain?
Churchill talks a fair game.
But so did the French.
Let's compare navies
With a light enough hand and the right propaganda, they could have kept the majority of the populace in line.
Germanys navy was small and they couldn't take losses.
Britains navy was the worlds greatest and could replace their boats.
Now Air Forces
The Luftwaffe could've "broken" the RAF for quite some time
But surrender would still not be.
germany had one chance to win .. .they fucked that chance up when they started WW2
also, re: RAF, only one group was nearly broken, group 11/12 IIRC , three or four other groups were not broken and could have reinforced the broken group. and we were outproducing the germans in aircraft in 42/43 time frame
so, just had to survive the battle of britain which from what I've read was not unlikely
and keep the SLOCs open
I'm not talking 42/43