Message from @Ikea-Chan
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Do you mean they could've won WW2?
Could they have won the World War II that happened? I believe the chances were slim, but possible.
Could they have won variant, hypothetical World War II's? Absolutely.
Their chances were close to zero in winning, they were facing off against three of the biggest world powers at the time.
If they managed to take Britain (unlikely, but so was the capitulation of France), and the colonies took that opportunity to muster independence instead of maintaining a united front, that leaves an isolated Eastern Front. If Russia fell quickly enough, then America could easily look at the situation and decide it's not worth it anymore.
The key is not fighting all the world powers at the same time.
The problem in that is; how do you capitulate Britain?
Churchill talks a fair game.
But so did the French.
Let's compare navies
With a light enough hand and the right propaganda, they could have kept the majority of the populace in line.
Germanys navy was small and they couldn't take losses.
Britains navy was the worlds greatest and could replace their boats.
Now Air Forces
The Luftwaffe could've "broken" the RAF for quite some time
But surrender would still not be.
germany had one chance to win .. .they fucked that chance up when they started WW2
also, re: RAF, only one group was nearly broken, group 11/12 IIRC , three or four other groups were not broken and could have reinforced the broken group. and we were outproducing the germans in aircraft in 42/43 time frame
so, just had to survive the battle of britain which from what I've read was not unlikely
and keep the SLOCs open
I'm talking pre-barbarossa
meaning, '40 and '41 germany had no chance
and by '42, that chance had taken a jump to hyperspace
That is the highest chance they had at beating the British air force
and they didnt have that chance to begin with
And they wouldn't have "beat" it
yes, group 11 got clobbered badly
Only paralyzed it for a bit before it got back up ready for a fight
Even if Germany beat the RAF, it would be hard to invade the UK
That's what i was also saying Yathy
but there were other reserves that would have been able to have acted as reserves
Germany'd need a proper Navy for an invasion of Britain like Sealion
A navy which they did not have
sealion has been gamed so mnay times I suspect the scenario drives some people to tears, only a very very few times did sealion succeed
Sealion wouldn't succeed
It'd be sunk to the bottom of the English Channel.
sealion was absolutely mind blowingly stupid
There was of course the "sentiment" among some German high staff that the British would surrender
deliver more divisions to england than the allies did during the normandly landings, across a contested english channel with the RN at full strength, and only having life jackets for for the first wave.
and, using rhine barges