With a light enough hand and the right propaganda, they could have kept the majority of the populace in line.

Germanys navy was small and they couldn't take losses.

Britains navy was the worlds greatest and could replace their boats.

Now Air Forces

The Luftwaffe could've "broken" the RAF for quite some time

But surrender would still not be.

germany had one chance to win .. .they fucked that chance up when they started WW2

also, re: RAF, only one group was nearly broken, group 11/12 IIRC , three or four other groups were not broken and could have reinforced the broken group. and we were outproducing the germans in aircraft in 42/43 time frame

so, just had to survive the battle of britain which from what I've read was not unlikely

and keep the SLOCs open

I'm not talking 42/43

I'm talking pre-barbarossa

meaning, '40 and '41 germany had no chance

and by '42, that chance had taken a jump to hyperspace

That is the highest chance they had at beating the British air force

and they didnt have that chance to begin with

And they wouldn't have "beat" it

yes, group 11 got clobbered badly

Only paralyzed it for a bit before it got back up ready for a fight

Even if Germany beat the RAF, it would be hard to invade the UK

That's what i was also saying Yathy

but there were other reserves that would have been able to have acted as reserves

Germany'd need a proper Navy for an invasion of Britain like Sealion

A navy which they did not have

sealion has been gamed so mnay times I suspect the scenario drives some people to tears, only a very very few times did sealion succeed

Sealion wouldn't succeed

It'd be sunk to the bottom of the English Channel.

sealion was absolutely mind blowingly stupid

There was of course the "sentiment" among some German high staff that the British would surrender

deliver more divisions to england than the allies did during the normandly landings, across a contested english channel with the RN at full strength, and only having life jackets for for the first wave.

and, using rhine barges

Rudolf Hess even went there personally, which was very idiotic

RHINE BARGES

I've seen modern rhine barges, their deck is so low to the river that a wake caused by a destroyer would have sunk the fucking t hings

rhine barges from the 40s?

Some people also say victory on the Eastern Front would've been possible.

deathtraps

What do you think about the "Victory on the Eastern front"?

9/10 sealion shortens the war for the allies and hastens the defeat of the germans

I think any scenario where the allies can aid russia ends in failure for the germans

germans penetrated to far too quickly in the initial assault, got bogged down by winter, then made an absolute monster of themselves by butchering so many that they were guarenteed their "internal lines" through occupied territories were contested