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2020-03-14 22:05:37 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

Hi. After two years, I'm back.

2020-03-14 22:05:59 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

where is Nerthulas

2020-03-14 22:06:19 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

Anyone got Corona?

2020-03-14 22:06:52 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

@fuguer What are your symptoms?

2020-03-14 22:07:29 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

@troglodytes Lenovo, Nice

2020-03-14 22:08:22 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

@Nerthulas Ready for some more Fomenko takes and other Varg conspiracies?

2020-03-14 22:09:41 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

Does anyone know why we regard History as empirical, yet it is not a science and more likely a lie?

2020-03-14 22:10:41 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

@Medman GIGACHIN

2020-03-14 22:11:30 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

@Nerthulas But it is treated as fact. Entire nations are assembled around history, not empirical facts.

2020-03-14 22:12:17 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

Not complaining. Dissenting

2020-03-14 22:12:54 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

I expect nothing more of the jewish controlled state to subvert history to their own advantage.

2020-03-14 22:13:43 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

All historians have agendas

2020-03-14 22:14:26 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

History is always laden with a narrative, like art or any form of expression.

2020-03-14 22:15:57 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

The primary form of dissent is to start with not agreeing with their history. Any counter ideas and narratives are layered upon a counter history.

2020-03-14 22:16:53 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

The formation of Europe and any of its early wars from the fall of Western Rome and the subversion of history from then.

2020-03-14 22:17:17 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

We should look more closely at what really happened

2020-03-14 22:17:22 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

Primary sources

2020-03-14 22:17:49 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

No. I haven't been online in over two years

2020-03-14 22:18:09 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

Really? With who?

2020-03-14 22:18:17 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

I might know them

2020-03-14 22:19:22 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

To be honest I'm active in AshaLogo's Riot server where there is a section where we talk about this often, specifically subverted history.

2020-03-14 22:19:56 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

@ayyycough are you in AshaLogos' riot server?

2020-03-14 22:20:10 UTC [JFG.world #general]  
2020-03-14 22:21:30 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

@Nerthulas My points are that history from the fall of Western Rome until the formation of the first European countries should be looked at more closely.

2020-03-14 22:21:57 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

A lot of it is taken at face value

2020-03-14 22:22:10 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

When in reality is should be ignored

2020-03-14 22:24:06 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

The 100 years war and subsequent 30 years war were both significant events where society was entirely reorganized.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hundred_Years%27_War

2020-03-14 22:25:41 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

The physical artifacts that we have are given a context, when in reality we should assume we know nothing of physical artifacts and instead place them in a timeline that is actually verified.

2020-03-14 22:26:44 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

Well say a roman lamp is found. The dating methods are not empirical.

2020-03-14 22:27:10 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

Its like dating a piece of art.

2020-03-14 22:27:23 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

The entire field is full of BS

2020-03-14 22:28:59 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

@Nerthulas their best guesses are politically motivated. It has always been.

2020-03-14 22:29:08 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

It is not empirical

2020-03-14 22:29:49 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

Have you spoken to historians? The ones you find at universities these days want black reparations.

2020-03-14 22:30:23 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

all of them are politically selected for tenure

2020-03-14 22:30:50 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

Do you think a radically questioning historian would be tenured?

2020-03-14 22:31:25 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

The older books were already subverted.

2020-03-14 22:32:36 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/688514947344629821/unknown.png

2020-03-14 22:33:45 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/688515236789092412/unknown.png

2020-03-14 22:34:10 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

@Nerthulas That the foundations of the current narrative was already formed then.

2020-03-14 22:34:26 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

Subversion is thousands of years old

2020-03-14 22:35:24 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

The only reason why it took so long is people being unwilling to accept it. Wars are used to destroy the family and successive inheritances.

2020-03-14 22:35:44 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

Let me show you

2020-03-14 22:36:31 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/688515933106602067/unknown.png

2020-03-14 22:36:46 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

Look at the deathtoll for the 30 years war

2020-03-14 22:36:58 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

keep in mind the total population for that time

2020-03-14 22:37:02 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

The 30 years war was the real WW1

2020-03-14 22:37:26 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

The graph for the 100 years war is not even shown, but it is understood to have a higher death toll than the 30 years war.

2020-03-14 22:38:23 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

@Nerthulas Why are you trusting historians?

2020-03-14 22:39:17 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

@Nerthulas Ok lets trust nothing. Not even your sources that you depend on.

2020-03-14 22:39:43 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

@Nerthulas Would you be consistent and say that we should distrust all of it?

2020-03-14 22:40:32 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

@Nerthulas If I was consistent would you agree with me more?

2020-03-14 22:40:49 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

So why is it even being discussed?

2020-03-14 22:41:29 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

@Nerthulas I think its just a cope on your end.

2020-03-14 22:42:03 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

@Nerthulas Do you think wooden doors are gas tight?

2020-03-14 22:43:17 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

@Nerthulas If wooden doors are not gas tight and historically they are seen to be in a peer reviewed academic system, can we accept anything else they say?

2020-03-14 22:43:39 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

consistency is important to you?

2020-03-14 22:44:47 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

It would make me thing you have your shit together more if you were more consistent in your wooden door gas tight argument.

2020-03-14 22:45:11 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

its a sincere question

2020-03-14 22:45:43 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

are you trolling?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/688518251885756456/unknown.png

2020-03-14 22:47:17 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

Anyway, I'm not trying to convince you of it, rather to spread dissent and make you question history and its ancient basis more. No one knows what happened. But I do know that it has been altered.

2020-03-14 22:47:40 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

Dissent starts with History.

2020-03-14 22:48:16 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

A certain group

2020-03-14 22:48:55 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

The alterations were strategic to result in the eventual destruction of the family.

2020-03-14 22:49:09 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

yes even then

2020-03-14 22:49:19 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

jews

2020-03-14 22:50:06 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

well let me show you one that is a little more recent than medieval https://www.olivercromwell.org/jews.htm

2020-03-14 22:50:32 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/688519460151361550/unknown.png

2020-03-14 22:53:05 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

@Nerthulas There is only one question you need to ask whether history has been subverted. Is there a strategic advantage to subverting history? Yes there is. Why would it not be subverted if the occupiers of Europe stand to gain from it strategically?

2020-03-14 22:54:39 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

It was far easier to alter history as the counter viewpoints were just killed.

2020-03-14 22:55:07 UTC [JFG.world #general]  
2020-03-14 22:56:19 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/688520917592178804/unknown.png

2020-03-14 22:57:04 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

This was suppressed by the Catholic clergy. Documented

2020-03-14 22:58:30 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/688521468291711053/unknown.png

2020-03-14 22:59:00 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

"the growing suspicion of collusion between the ruling class and Jews "

2020-03-14 23:00:34 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

Will you keep this opinion in the 4th Reich?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/688521988230348894/unknown.png

2020-03-14 23:00:49 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

Lets find out

2020-03-14 23:01:48 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

It is a point of showing that you trust academia. Trust history and their narrative and refuse to question it.

2020-03-14 23:03:47 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

I don't have any valid points. History is correct. My argument is defeated. Finally we can go back to trusting exactly what academia says.

2020-03-14 23:06:55 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

If there was a well rounded alternative, would it be accepted by academia? or ridiculed?

2020-03-14 23:07:14 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

Even if it was true, it would be ridiculed.

2020-03-14 23:08:46 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

I can already predetermine that you would find it ridiculous, but accept the one promoted by academia.

2020-03-14 23:11:40 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

Ridicule is the norm for opinions that challenge the power structure. Even ones that are true.

2020-03-14 23:13:16 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

The well is poisoned by grouping it with any number of conspiracy theories by calling it a conspiracy theory. We should counter by calling their ideas conspiracy theories.

2020-03-14 23:13:40 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

Racism? Conspiracy theory.
Antisemitism? Conspiracy theory.

2020-03-14 23:17:02 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

I can tell it hurts to think about history as another lie. Your mind defaults by refusing to even think about history as something that could have been altered.

2020-03-14 23:20:34 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

Would you prefer that I think history is not something that can be subverted?

Perhaps Gaede can show you a little about archeological and historic subversion. Since if I remember his name does carry some weight here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMOJnkWjp5Q&list=PLwAqFWZDUpR8j0xcwT3NEAAM9r3clA6po

2020-03-14 23:21:43 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

Everything I point out is disregarded. What would an accepted event or alteration look like?

2020-03-14 23:22:03 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

Never said you are establishment

2020-03-14 23:22:12 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

Not even remotely

2020-03-14 23:23:03 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

I just think it is a earth shuddering idea to think that history can be altered that it is automatically disregarded as it hurts to even think about it.

2020-03-14 23:23:23 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

What would substance look like?

2020-03-14 23:24:09 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

ok

2020-03-14 23:26:34 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

I'm throwing my ideas out here to see what you think of them. Never claimed to be the best at defending them, perhaps I'm the worst at that. I also don't have all the best events or alterations at hand to accurately defend my ideas either. Just winging it from what I remember.

2020-03-14 23:27:48 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

@Fuerchtegott yes the english one is likely the most censored one.

2020-03-14 23:29:41 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

has anyone here read any Fomenko?

2020-03-14 23:29:59 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

@Medman if he wore a turtleneck it would have been peak

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