Message from @gast

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2020-03-14 22:25:41 UTC  

The physical artifacts that we have are given a context, when in reality we should assume we know nothing of physical artifacts and instead place them in a timeline that is actually verified.

2020-03-14 22:25:53 UTC  

what verified timeline

2020-03-14 22:26:28 UTC  

guys

2020-03-14 22:26:38 UTC  

is this 33 thing about the coronavirus something true

2020-03-14 22:26:44 UTC  

Well say a roman lamp is found. The dating methods are not empirical.

2020-03-14 22:27:10 UTC  

Its like dating a piece of art.

2020-03-14 22:27:22 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/688513631725289572/1584224317296.png

2020-03-14 22:27:23 UTC  

The entire field is full of BS

2020-03-14 22:27:56 UTC  

ok

2020-03-14 22:27:57 UTC  

well

2020-03-14 22:28:03 UTC  

they don't say that they know for sure

2020-03-14 22:28:09 UTC  

would you rather they just say

2020-03-14 22:28:14 UTC  

the coronavirus hopefully kills a lot of people

2020-03-14 22:28:17 UTC  

"we don't know anything about this"

2020-03-14 22:28:25 UTC  

or have them talk about what their best guesses are

2020-03-14 22:28:37 UTC  

and what those guesses are based on

2020-03-14 22:28:54 UTC  

they give estimations for a lot of things

2020-03-14 22:28:59 UTC  

@Nerthulas their best guesses are politically motivated. It has always been.

2020-03-14 22:29:08 UTC  

It is not empirical

2020-03-14 22:29:21 UTC  

what do you mean it's not empirical

2020-03-14 22:29:24 UTC  

you mean it's not certain

2020-03-14 22:29:32 UTC  

they have reasoning for their estimations

2020-03-14 22:29:49 UTC  

Have you spoken to historians? The ones you find at universities these days want black reparations.

2020-03-14 22:29:52 UTC  

which are based on other things

2020-03-14 22:29:56 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/688514280408219719/1584213157436.png

2020-03-14 22:30:02 UTC  

ok, some of them do

2020-03-14 22:30:09 UTC  

we could look at surveys of historians maybe

2020-03-14 22:30:11 UTC  

but

2020-03-14 22:30:15 UTC  

were they in the 50s?

2020-03-14 22:30:23 UTC  

all of them are politically selected for tenure

2020-03-14 22:30:26 UTC  

how much of the historical consensus has changed since the 50s?

2020-03-14 22:30:31 UTC  

how much of that had a good reason?

2020-03-14 22:30:42 UTC  

there are historians in other countries

2020-03-14 22:30:48 UTC  

@MARS3.0 based

2020-03-14 22:30:50 UTC  

Do you think a radically questioning historian would be tenured?

2020-03-14 22:31:10 UTC  

@gast gladly we have older history ***books***

2020-03-14 22:31:19 UTC  

well, have your heard of the 1619 Project from the New York Times? It's basically a failed effort to rewrite American history by some empowered black female.....

2020-03-14 22:31:25 UTC  

The older books were already subverted.

2020-03-14 22:32:07 UTC  

She said the founding of America is based on the desire to enslave blacks. She got enormous pushback from historians and university professors