sheer coincidence?

being a not-not communist?

The first citation from that graph is from an obscure journalist with no scholarly credentials. The secondary source is reliable, and from a Yale professor, but unfortunately from a book detailing the similarities between Stalin and Hitler's regimes. The 95% statistic comes from the obscure journalist.

playing pretend?

Honestly the Yale citation is just there to make it look legitimate.

The chart is a sham.

That sir is an adhom, you are attacking the journalist based not off his argument, but rather his credentials, which do not define his argument or his intellectual abilities

@carlton™ you are too educated for right-winger, see? Your comrades can't even believe you are one of them ^__^

something being obscured or not does not define it as correct or incorrect, either

Having no credentials and being used a primary citation is grounds for questioning the legitimacy of a statistic that is by a factor of 19 larger than records directly from the Soviet government, no ad hom.

The truth doesn't suddenly vanish when someone says you are not allowed to

anyone can research anything, and as a result regardless of credentials, you are playing a fool by dismissing it just because of the lack of credentials

And @Firefly right-wingers can be educated. There are plenty of educated people from all parts of the political spectrum.

I have met loads of Nazis who defend their positions in very educated manners.

@carlton™ If that would be true Ukraine wouldn't be a shithole.

Is already how many years right-wing owns Ukraine?

Ukraine was a shithole when it was owned by communists.

It was one of the most developing region of USSR with vast investitions and industry.

One of the most developed regions maybe, but still a shithole.

Soviet communism is perhaps the largest failure of any economic system in recent history.

Ask any former Soviet citizen.

People there could pay rent

Now they can't

I'm a Soviet Citizen from Ukraine.

Countries naturally develop over time

the expansion of Soviet infrastructure was to be expected from any country

it's not some great big win for Socialism

I have never met anyone who lived in the USSR or any Eastern Bloc country particularly who advocated for Soviet communism.

It was exploitative at all levels except for the highest echelons of what can only be described as an aristocracy.

I know someone whos family was shipped halfway across the country to an industrial city in the Urals

Nothing got done without bribes, even the most basic goods were shoddy or in short supply, and political repression and censorship were widespread at every point in Soviet history except towards the end.

@carlton™ Is of no matter. Important is that right-wing in power for many years and people can't pay even water and electricity.

So that makes communism okay somehow?

It makes right-wing under educated in economy.

If you put America through 80 years of communism and then suddenly made it switch to capitalism it'd be a shithole too.

Ukraine hasn't fully recovered yet from the collapse of the union

Thank 80 years of communism.

they've had to deal with poor economic management

But in Communism it was granted to them, houses and flats for free with free rent and electricity.

and besides, Ukraine had Russia to lean on for 70 years, it's a big change

but america is not a shithole before the 80 (70) years of communism