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2018-10-02 13:13:44 UTC [Subverse #new-member-alert]  

2018-10-02 19:02:58 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Careful

2018-10-02 19:03:35 UTC [Subverse #general]  

My bro was disallowed from joining a popular club at his uni 2 or 3 weeks ago because one of the women in the club thought he laughed at her :/

2018-10-02 19:08:54 UTC [Subverse #general]  

@Rabbi Shekels he already knows. that wasn't the issue anyway. he needed to network with people in the club, and some chick took his actions the wrong way, so he was disallowed.

2018-10-02 19:11:17 UTC [Subverse #general]  

when i went for my masters, they were teaching micro aggressions to the MBA candidates... that was 3 years ago. I fear what it has become now.

2018-10-02 19:34:32 UTC [Subverse #general]  

could be sexual assault... just not the kind people care about.

2018-10-03 03:28:47 UTC [Subverse #general]  

sometimes, you just need to give your dishwasher a little kick and it starts working properly

2018-10-03 03:28:51 UTC [Subverse #general]  

***bad joke***

2018-10-15 18:02:07 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Sorry to interrupt, but when we gonna talk about real news, like Elon Musk being a weeb?

2018-10-15 18:06:46 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Making race an issue is typically an election winner for Dems. They won't give it up that easily.

2018-11-01 22:47:14 UTC [Subverse #general]  

got a serious question for you guys:
I have a friend who grew up in a poorer neighborhood. Most, if not all, of his friends from his early childhood essentially convinced him that white people, as a race, have been pushing minorities (specifically black people) down. Whenever we speak about this, he has a history of bringing up things like 'black people are more likely to be shot by cops' and basically ignores me or gets visibly angry whenever I attempt to say otherwise or qualify his statement...

Any tips for this situation? I've recently figured that, as he's not too politically aware, he'll be fine even if I don't talk to him about it. It just bothers me that he gets visibly upset when I try to rebuke his claims.

2018-11-01 22:52:00 UTC [Subverse #general]  

i've brought the violent crime tidbit up before. my issue with this is he either gets upset about me bringing that up, or he blames their violence about their situation which was thrust upon them by rich white people.

2018-11-01 22:53:07 UTC [Subverse #general]  

subbed to donut just now. never heard of him before.

2018-11-01 22:56:32 UTC [Subverse #general]  

thanks guys ๐Ÿ‘

2018-11-07 00:00:03 UTC [Subverse #general]  

any decent commentaries for the election today?

2018-11-07 02:21:42 UTC [Subverse #politics-free-for-all]  

Hope Hugin takes NJ...

2018-11-23 14:38:49 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Has there been any confirmation from the FBI stating that they do indeed label the proud boys an extremist organization with ties to white nationalism? (I mean beyond the general "we give state governments things to watch out for all the time" statement)

2018-12-09 01:59:13 UTC [Subverse #bot-commands]  

!rank

2018-12-09 05:13:21 UTC [Subverse #bot-commands]  

!agree

2019-02-13 22:02:54 UTC [Subverse #politics-free-for-all]  

Any economists or people in finance here? Wondering if any of you have thoughts on the relatively new "Modern Monetary Theory" and the increasing US government debt relative to the relatively stable worth of the US dollar.

2019-02-13 22:14:11 UTC [Subverse #politics-free-for-all]  

can anyone explain to me how it makes sense? I watched a couple videos about it, and it really seems like they're advocating for countries to just print money for their social programs.

2019-02-14 05:22:28 UTC [Subverse #politics-free-for-all]  

i'm enjoying it so far

2019-02-14 05:22:40 UTC [Subverse #politics-free-for-all]  

gotta go to sleep though. continuing later.

2019-02-14 05:33:08 UTC [Subverse #politics-free-for-all]  

i'll check out more of his stuff. tbh, i'm currently mainly interested in this "MMT", which appears to have come out from left field. When I hear "print money as you want", I immediately get a bit concerned... and this stuff is being taught in colleges ffs! (i haven't really been paying attention to the development of this brain cancer... only just found it yesterday)

2019-02-14 05:34:14 UTC [Subverse #politics-free-for-all]  

i'm of the opinion that you can be both an individualist and support a social contract, unless we get into 'purity tests'. just like how a capitalist can like *some* social programs.

2019-02-14 05:34:47 UTC [Subverse #politics-free-for-all]  

what do i know though. ill watch your vid tomorrow fitzydog

2019-02-14 05:35:28 UTC [Subverse #politics-free-for-all]  

again, this is where we get into purity tests, which I will agree to disagree with people on.

2019-02-14 05:37:19 UTC [Subverse #politics-free-for-all]  

this MMT discussion is leading me to believe that proponents of MMT really don't understand accounting... or at least can't distinguish the meaning of numbers on a balance sheet.

2019-02-14 05:41:08 UTC [Subverse #politics-free-for-all]  

@Fitzydog that's probably more true than not. but hey, those on the right are too trusting of people, which leads to giant corporations forming and wealth generation to be a primary target (which negatively impacts things like: social framework, environment, people's lives (in the case of inadequate drug testing), etc.)

2019-02-14 05:41:30 UTC [Subverse #politics-free-for-all]  

they barely understand accounting tbf

2019-02-14 05:41:56 UTC [Subverse #politics-free-for-all]  

it's too late. misspelling things too often. gn guys

2019-02-14 17:39:20 UTC [Subverse #politics-free-for-all]  

Going back the the social contract and lack of consent video "Taxation Isn't Theft, Because of the Social Contract", do we ask murderers for consent to jail them? Call it a strawman or whatever, but in this frame of mind, let's make a hypothetical situation with some assumptions:
Assumptions:
A government's bare minimum objective is to govern over the people who consented to be governed and defend those people. This requires a police force and a military. Secondary objective in this day in age would probably be to deal with foreign governments as representatives of those people it governs.
Because of this assumption, the government in effect lays claim to the land which it presides over - not in terms of ownership, but in terms of protection from both internal (via Police) and external (via Army) forces. The details of this sort of non-ownership claim would have to be ironed out a bit more, sure, but in effect it means eminent domain can't really be applied.

2019-02-14 17:39:31 UTC [Subverse #politics-free-for-all]  

The Hypothetical:
Let's say there was a society in which we have the above mentioned government policy. Babies are born and therefor cannot give consent to be governed (shoutout to the anti-natalists out there i guess...). Let's add another assumption stating that children under the age of 18 fall under the rule of their parents for the sheer fact that children cannot give informed consent. Due to this, the parents of the child would get in trouble if the child did anything that is worthy of calling the police over.
Once the child turns 18, he or she can either give consent to be governed, or not. If they give consent, then great, things are easy from there. If they do not give consent, if this individual does not own property, they do not have to pay taxes (a 'membership fee' in this hypothetical). If this individual is attacked on the streets by another person who did not consent, police are encouraged to ignore the occurrence and not investigate if it resulted in murder. This person can leave the country with no issue, but as this person wouldn't have any government-approved records, another government would most likely be unwilling to accept them (as they don't know if this individual is a criminal).

Congratulations, you essentially made me create a mafia. How would governments work otherwise in a completely libertarian society?

2019-02-14 17:57:30 UTC [Subverse #politics-free-for-all]  

So, would a libertarian society have any way of defending against foreign nations?

2019-02-14 17:58:31 UTC [Subverse #politics-free-for-all]  

to be clear, i'm not advocating for anything. i'm just wondering how it would work in the real world

2019-02-14 17:59:41 UTC [Subverse #politics-free-for-all]  

please no MMT

2019-02-14 17:59:52 UTC [Subverse #politics-free-for-all]  

i cringe

2019-02-14 18:01:04 UTC [Subverse #politics-free-for-all]  

the idea behind it though, is that those with money are the ones that would have the most to lose if anything went wrong, no?

2019-02-14 18:01:18 UTC [Subverse #politics-free-for-all]  

(thinking from the human wealth angle)

2019-02-14 18:02:17 UTC [Subverse #politics-free-for-all]  

risk never fully goes away even if you diversify properly, but just because you have a lot, doesn't mean you're safe (look at venezuela, lol)

2019-02-14 18:03:32 UTC [Subverse #politics-free-for-all]  

alright, so cia conspiracy theory is where you fall... sorry, agree to disagree with that one.

2019-02-14 18:03:50 UTC [Subverse #politics-free-for-all]  

back to the issue at hand

2019-02-14 18:04:38 UTC [Subverse #politics-free-for-all]  

preventing a plutocracy without hard redistribution and essentially punishing high earners is what i'm interested in

2019-02-14 18:12:06 UTC [Subverse #politics-free-for-all]  

so, i have something else to say, but on the note above, i think this would be interesting to look into:

https://pro.paradigmletters.org/p/awn_sdrblockchainv2_0418/LAWNV213/?rm=1&h=true

It's essentially an ad, but the conspiracy theory behind it makes sense to me at least.

2019-02-14 18:14:00 UTC [Subverse #politics-free-for-all]  

ultimately, creating 'races' in the first place was a mistake.

2019-02-14 18:14:15 UTC [Subverse #politics-free-for-all]  

in the long run, we'd be a better species if we just got rid of the classification

2019-02-14 18:18:02 UTC [Subverse #politics-free-for-all]  

while i admit, i LOLed at that... i still don't think we really have enough research to prove that eugenics is really a thing.

i'm all for children all growing up in a loving environment which encourages education and hard work. If we study multiple 'races' with these same environments, we'd have better data.

2019-02-14 18:18:45 UTC [Subverse #politics-free-for-all]  

being 'evil' is subjective and changes with the times.

2019-02-14 18:19:26 UTC [Subverse #politics-free-for-all]  

? O.o truth changes from person to person. facts do not

2019-02-14 18:21:33 UTC [Subverse #politics-free-for-all]  

i'd like to make this clear on economics: economists are essentially the modern-day alchemists. they "know" nothing for a fact. if they claim to, they are either delusional, or lying. they are fortune tellers who shout out when they are right and gloss over anything they are wrong about.

2019-02-14 18:22:26 UTC [Subverse #politics-free-for-all]  

yes, there is a real backbone to economics, but most of that is just the basics.

2019-02-14 18:23:21 UTC [Subverse #politics-free-for-all]  

i'd classify production part of the basics. but keep in mind, humans have a social aspect to them. homogeneity may make things easier, but will almost certainly not make things better.

2019-02-14 18:27:26 UTC [Subverse #politics-free-for-all]  

I'd have to get more into moral philosophy myself, but reading some chinese literature makes me think that there is no truly moral way of thinking that will not change in the future.

2019-02-14 18:29:36 UTC [Subverse #politics-free-for-all]  

so... you're for a Theocracy?

2019-02-14 18:30:18 UTC [Subverse #politics-free-for-all]  

by virtue of the commandments of christianity, a state cannot hold equal authority to the book.

2019-02-14 18:30:35 UTC [Subverse #politics-free-for-all]  

there is no 'working together'

2019-02-14 18:34:00 UTC [Subverse #politics-free-for-all]  

is the bible literal fact, or stories meant to pass on lessons? @Vril-Gesellschaft

2019-02-14 18:38:35 UTC [Subverse #politics-free-for-all]  

honestly, knowing this is what you think, we're just gonna have to agree to disagree. I can't really get behind pretty much anything you've said in the last half hour... except maybe what we were talking about in basic economics.

2019-02-14 18:39:27 UTC [Subverse #politics-free-for-all]  

thanks for sharing your prospective though!

2019-02-14 18:41:04 UTC [Subverse #politics-free-for-all]  

i'll see what i can do in drumming up something better than oppressing people under the book and state...

2019-02-14 18:42:17 UTC [Subverse #politics-free-for-all]  

i figure you didn't, but the policies required to enact such a church-state equilibrium will inherently lead to corruption. just because you are a church leader, doesn't mean you are infallible.

2019-02-14 18:50:02 UTC [Subverse #politics-free-for-all]  

i'm assuming when you say 'race', you are referring to what you previously mentioned as the members of 'country'.

Let's be clear. Rick people should not have NO power. In government, they should have just as much power as everyone else when it comes to enacting social policies. Rich people, at the same time, should not have to sacrifice their wealth simply because they make way more money than the average person.

Reducing money demand to a degree may be beneficial... maybe... but don't forget that the demand for people to become successful pushes the society as a whole up economically. Progress requires a bit of greed.

2019-02-14 18:54:09 UTC [Subverse #politics-free-for-all]  

In order to tax the super rich, who have already proven they know how to manage money at least relatively well, a ridiculously high tax, we'd need a way to ensure that the government would use this money in a better way than said rich person.

2019-02-14 18:55:17 UTC [Subverse #politics-free-for-all]  

While i may be inclined to agree with slightly lowering the demand for money, it still leaves the economic growth of the hypothetical country astray.

2019-02-14 18:56:16 UTC [Subverse #politics-free-for-all]  

@halfthink these are all hypotheticals. i think of it as basically just making people need money less to survive.

2019-02-14 18:57:43 UTC [Subverse #politics-free-for-all]  

deflation is another conversation entirely. we'll need to talk about it when the global birth to death rates start inversing.

2019-02-14 18:58:08 UTC [Subverse #politics-free-for-all]  

i don't really agree with the propaganda route

2019-02-14 18:58:19 UTC [Subverse #politics-free-for-all]  

less propaganda = better the way i see it.

2019-02-14 19:01:11 UTC [Subverse #politics-free-for-all]  

referring to my point about lowering the demand for money leading economic growth astray: Greed is probably the single greatest driver for aggregate prosperity in the long run. making money less desirable will dis-incentivize quite a few people from making progress unless there is another reward system in place.

I got a call. be back in 15 minutes.

2019-02-14 19:02:34 UTC [Subverse #politics-free-for-all]  

dis-incentivizing money would go across the board though, no? how would you do it otherwise?

2019-02-14 19:35:24 UTC [Subverse #politics-free-for-all]  

needed to do something. back for now.

wut happened o.o

2019-02-14 19:40:08 UTC [Subverse #politics-free-for-all]  

what he says is commie, you say is ns. they're the same thing. it's just the terms are mixed up frequently

2019-02-14 19:41:21 UTC [Subverse #politics-free-for-all]  

people say it's the same because creating a true communist society requires one to go through an ns phase. the problem is... it never really grows OUT of the ns phase.

2019-02-14 19:44:09 UTC [Subverse #politics-free-for-all]  

just want to make sure i understand you @halfthink : you're saying value is subjective?

2019-02-14 19:44:21 UTC [Subverse #politics-free-for-all]  

meaning, an apple may be worth 1 dollar to one dude, and 2 dollars to another, right?

2019-02-14 19:44:35 UTC [Subverse #politics-free-for-all]  

yes, that is correct

2019-02-14 19:47:04 UTC [Subverse #politics-free-for-all]  

do we all agree that fiat currencies need to be put to rest?

2019-02-14 19:48:11 UTC [Subverse #politics-free-for-all]  

i figured. let's assume the gold standard then going forward. probably more productive. fiat is probably on it's way out in the near future anyway (unless we really want to live in a world of perpetual debt)

2019-02-14 19:49:23 UTC [Subverse #politics-free-for-all]  

i kind of need to agree with @halfthink when i say basing a currencies value on production is highly subjective. depends where, when, how, etc.

2019-02-14 19:50:30 UTC [Subverse #politics-free-for-all]  

lemmi think. might have jumped the gun

2019-02-14 20:16:05 UTC [Subverse #politics-free-for-all]  

i'm hungry now. your fault @Vril-Gesellschaft

2019-07-25 22:34:47 UTC [Athens #public-gallery]  

๐Ÿคก ๐ŸŒŽ

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