Message from @Aero

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2019-02-14 18:38:28 UTC  

superweapons was looking for a less disastrous ending to plutocracy than atom bombs

2019-02-14 18:38:35 UTC  

honestly, knowing this is what you think, we're just gonna have to agree to disagree. I can't really get behind pretty much anything you've said in the last half hour... except maybe what we were talking about in basic economics.

2019-02-14 18:38:42 UTC  

override the opinions of his generals on multiple occasions which directly lead to disaster

2019-02-14 18:38:42 UTC  

which I believe they had, as italian intelligence attests to prior to the Americans

2019-02-14 18:39:27 UTC  

thanks for sharing your prospective though!

2019-02-14 18:39:30 UTC  

That is a myth, most of the dumb decisions were done by the generals. Hitler actually had little operational control over the east planned out. The only thing he did was grab stalingrad, but this was actually strategically about oil/

2019-02-14 18:40:00 UTC  

@Aero Federist economic policy will eventually lead you to agree with the other stuff. It's irrefutably perfect as a system to remove modern plutocracy.

2019-02-14 18:40:11 UTC  

I am open to any better ideas, but tbh there are none so far as I've seen.

2019-02-14 18:40:15 UTC  

Ill admit aen has been fresh air around here

2019-02-14 18:40:56 UTC  

However its like ppl are never happy, they always wanna start shit. Like how the japanese left china.

2019-02-14 18:40:58 UTC  

the general overrides were in the cases of superweapons mostly

2019-02-14 18:41:02 UTC  

nazi gang gang 😎

2019-02-14 18:41:04 UTC  

i'll see what i can do in drumming up something better than oppressing people under the book and state...

2019-02-14 18:41:13 UTC  

Couldnt just build tigers, had to build king tigers

2019-02-14 18:41:17 UTC  

lol I don't want to "oppress" people

2019-02-14 18:41:36 UTC  

I want to limit people's ability to do degenerate things. Such as for example advocate for child tranny operations.

2019-02-14 18:41:53 UTC  

I just think that aen is right on paper but not in practice.

2019-02-14 18:42:01 UTC  

why not in practice?

2019-02-14 18:42:08 UTC  

There needs to be room for mistakes

2019-02-14 18:42:15 UTC  

there is, as I said we have failsafes

2019-02-14 18:42:17 UTC  

i figure you didn't, but the policies required to enact such a church-state equilibrium will inherently lead to corruption. just because you are a church leader, doesn't mean you are infallible.

2019-02-14 18:42:33 UTC  

gun rights, church collaboration preventing outrageous policy making by dictator, and volkish principle ensuring all policy is made for benefit of race

2019-02-14 18:42:41 UTC  

Ima keep watching the convo see where it goes but this is interesting

2019-02-14 18:44:04 UTC  

Well imo the way to temper corruption is to create a new aristocracy and status incentive system based on honor. So the money demand minimization aspect is a big part of this. We lower money demand to sufficient levels to ensure plutocrats have no power, then afterwards replace the current so called "nobility" with a real one based on intellectual, moral, and militaristic merit. People who actually sacrifice for their country, and who are loyal to God and morals.

2019-02-14 18:44:19 UTC  

After this we can work on corruption by creating system wide eugenics policies

2019-02-14 18:44:36 UTC  

which I believe would improve moral predisposition of the race in general in a few generations, so it would only take really one or two generations of rulers

2019-02-14 18:44:48 UTC  

~50 years according to experts in the field such as Richard Lynn

2019-02-14 18:47:39 UTC  

Well thats not how evolution works tho or humanity. Things change incredibly fast. Even japan isnt japan anymore.

2019-02-14 18:47:54 UTC  

We need chaos to strive

2019-02-14 18:47:54 UTC  

hence racial homogeneity projects

2019-02-14 18:48:10 UTC  

no, chaos is what leads to globo homo and nightmarish shitholes

2019-02-14 18:48:27 UTC  

It leads to an attempt to establish order

2019-02-14 18:48:46 UTC  

Also mutations within race happen

2019-02-14 18:49:01 UTC  

You cannot keep a race pure even in an ethnostate

2019-02-14 18:49:03 UTC  

not really, the absolute variation has a cap which can be measured

2019-02-14 18:49:14 UTC  

we don't need 100% purity

2019-02-14 18:49:20 UTC  

Enviroments change as well. Mutations will happen

2019-02-14 18:49:35 UTC  

And much like the japanese leaving the chinese youll have a similiar scenario

2019-02-14 18:49:47 UTC  

How do you deal with the economic calculation problem?

2019-02-14 18:49:49 UTC  

mutations wont be bred in in modern environments though, because we consciously also effect our own evolution via technology and society

2019-02-14 18:50:02 UTC  

i'm assuming when you say 'race', you are referring to what you previously mentioned as the members of 'country'.

Let's be clear. Rick people should not have NO power. In government, they should have just as much power as everyone else when it comes to enacting social policies. Rich people, at the same time, should not have to sacrifice their wealth simply because they make way more money than the average person.

Reducing money demand to a degree may be beneficial... maybe... but don't forget that the demand for people to become successful pushes the society as a whole up economically. Progress requires a bit of greed.