Message from @Aero

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2019-02-14 18:58:08 UTC  

i don't really agree with the propaganda route

2019-02-14 18:58:18 UTC  

So, if you want a stable quantity of money and no tax, then why have the state involved with money at all? Why not have free banking?

2019-02-14 18:58:19 UTC  

less propaganda = better the way i see it.

2019-02-14 18:58:19 UTC  

it can be positive if it's based on truth

2019-02-14 18:58:35 UTC  

You need alot of what ifs aen

2019-02-14 18:58:44 UTC  

@halfthink free banking leads to pareto principle, without constraints monopolies form and therefore plutocracy

2019-02-14 18:58:53 UTC  

Thats another problem i have with nat socs

2019-02-14 18:58:58 UTC  

no, this has already somewhat been done even in the Schact economic system

2019-02-14 18:59:36 UTC  

You have a communist understanding of economics dude.

2019-02-14 18:59:45 UTC  

Germany had higher relative wages to the plutocracies of UK, France, USA, had higher production rate, had no interest loans, had higher living standard, and proportionally their GDP was highest in the world until the war started

2019-02-14 19:00:09 UTC  

I have a bachelors in economics lol. I already explained in detail why capitalism is a failure, but I don't like communism either.

2019-02-14 19:00:51 UTC  

Bachelor in economics is not very credible, dude.

2019-02-14 19:01:11 UTC  

referring to my point about lowering the demand for money leading economic growth astray: Greed is probably the single greatest driver for aggregate prosperity in the long run. making money less desirable will dis-incentivize quite a few people from making progress unless there is another reward system in place.

I got a call. be back in 15 minutes.

2019-02-14 19:01:13 UTC  

not an argument

2019-02-14 19:01:14 UTC  

If you agree with what you learned, you are basically a commie.

2019-02-14 19:01:33 UTC  

lol wut

2019-02-14 19:01:53 UTC  

He means most commies come out of school

2019-02-14 19:01:56 UTC  

@Aero as I said you only do it at the upper echelons for individuals not necessarily for corporations

2019-02-14 19:02:15 UTC  

Well my faction killed like what? 20 million communists? Pretty sure I'm not a commie lol

2019-02-14 19:02:28 UTC  

pfft 20 million

2019-02-14 19:02:34 UTC  

dis-incentivizing money would go across the board though, no? how would you do it otherwise?

2019-02-14 19:02:40 UTC  

The communists killed twice as many

2019-02-14 19:03:04 UTC  

@Aero incrementally, the money demand effect would happen over time, and we would replace with new system of incentive like in ancient world based on money

2019-02-14 19:03:17 UTC  

prior to enlightenment the aristocracy was based on martial values and religious order

2019-02-14 19:03:22 UTC  

Hitler was an inflationist, why do you want a constant money supply?

2019-02-14 19:03:29 UTC  

merchant caste took power in the 18th century and this shithole was the result

2019-02-14 19:03:29 UTC  

But what about trading with others?

2019-02-14 19:03:45 UTC  

We need dem rare minerals to stay competetitive

2019-02-14 19:03:46 UTC  

inflation is caused during every war, there was massive deflation since the hyperinflation period of wiemar in the Reich

2019-02-14 19:04:19 UTC  

Inflation is a means for war, not an effect.

2019-02-14 19:04:27 UTC  

@My Preferred Pronoun Is Sama the currency would increase in value relative to others, creating trade imbalances for them, thus we would have to over time become more self sufficient since people would be less willing to trade

2019-02-14 19:04:53 UTC  

But u cant force people to accept the value you impose from other countries

2019-02-14 19:04:54 UTC  

a production based system would easily btfo any fiat fake society like America

2019-02-14 19:05:13 UTC  

they will accept it based on what it can purchase in our society, and therefore our geopolitical projection will make ti valuable in other places

2019-02-14 19:05:14 UTC  

They need to be playing the same game for that to happen

2019-02-14 19:05:30 UTC  

well we would have an international geopolitical clout and a very powerful military

2019-02-14 19:05:38 UTC  

But were at a fucked point where we rely on other countries for modernism to continue

2019-02-14 19:05:49 UTC  

ultimately this is theorizing about a new superpower, not just a random nation state

2019-02-14 19:05:57 UTC  

Alot of what ifs

2019-02-14 19:06:12 UTC  

it's not what ifs, it's a dedicated policy rigor for after modern elites are couped

2019-02-14 19:06:26 UTC  

an actual tangible policy proposal people can dig into