!agree

...but we are going the opposite way, with courts rulling that the fed gov can't ban FGM

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"justice" is slow, probs nothing yet

hot take

that's a low bar, mein frein

I've been banned here 3-4 times

no u

if you are an unapologetic white male, you are a nazi silly goy

Hello fellow magapedes...

yeah, I read the rules, I won't plague you guys with my presence for long. 😉

The rules don't jive with my views so I'm going to check the place out then leave.

no

Demographics is destiny and voting largely breaks down along racial lines. I prefer my people.

inb4 ban

alright then, I misunderstood

To be fair, with discord like it is, I get why some people might.

indeed

white

I would not call myself conservative, although I like conservatives.

yes

ty

of course

he does not share my politics, but as far as presidents go he's doing some good things

I live in the real world and get along with all sorts of people Anon

gotcha

I really like the populism and hope it catches. GOP had become synonymous with GDP, there is more to running a nation than looking out for wall street. The economy is important, but profits at all cost is a bad move.

Trump and Tucker, good peeps

my fave on TV

Right, Tucker and Real Housewives. 😉

yeah

IRL, yes

not so much, to be honest I don't participate in many servers and most of them are more in line with my views

like, how my views differ from conservative views?

right

yes

well, they tend to go after really edgy servers

anyway, some servers have been around a long time with no issues. It just depends.

I've been banned before for being in mild servers and not even posting but a new account is easy to make.

I don't know what to say to that, lel

I think Christians might beg to differ

I'm atheist as well

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this pope, from what I understand, says a lot of things many Catholics disagree with.

Right, isn't true that the pope is only considered infallible in a narrow range of topics?

Yes, this is the reality of being a Christian in the modern day west.

wires?

My understanding is that they if they get into any such servers they report them and likely take screen caps.

oh, right

nah, they really do that

Lot's of patriotic Americans disagree with that lifestyle. By that standard, one can't follow an Abrahamic religion and be pro-American.

lots of children go unadopted

at some point it's murder and should be illegal no matter what

but late term abortions are murders, so that's different....

I think the ability to have sex without the risk of a child has had all sorts of societal impacts. Women see this as a boon but I think it has harmed gender relations.

Well, the problem is that the worst of society is populating the country while "educated women" slut around until their 30s and have few or no children. Women who have a bunch of partners are less likely to have happy successful marriages according to studies. You can't make a hoe into a house wife.

The point is, it encourages behaviors that reduce marriages, marriage happiness/success, birth rates, male and female happiness. All of these things on the decline since "sexual liberation". If you think "fun" is worth sacrificing all those things for, that's your call.

Children do better with both parents in the home, it's not even close. Not marriage per se, but these things are highly corelated. You are correct that a woman could work and kids still do alright, that's not really what I meant. It was just a figure of speech. The economy is such that I understand why women must work now, another reason for a drop in female happiness. Career women of today are less happy than housewives of yesteryear. Also worth noting, women tend not to want to marry men who make less than them and women are overrepresented at university, so this decreases marriage as well.

Then women entered the workforce and supply/demand took over, decreasing wages for men. Then the establishment on both sides supported importing cheap labor at the expense of the American worker. Women were lied to and told they would find happiness and meaning in work when that really isn't generally what they find. The truth is it's rat race that serves to make others rich while you eke out an existence. There is nothing more meaningful than raising children IMHO and the drop in female happiness seems to support that. There are exceptional women who might not fit the norm, but that is irrelevant. One shouldn't consider the exception while ignoring the rule. Lot's of things converge to make society as broken as it is today and it's just not better than it was and it's getting worse.

If one puts the individual above the society and ignores the fact the even individual women are less happy under this system, it is a good system.

Yes, but what I pointed out about women was also the result of feminist lies.

The thing is, employers love it, of curse. In a time when mass immigration would not have been allowed, it allowed them to drive down wages. that's another reason it happened, these things happened in tandem.

Oh, I didn't know that about saudi.

So the whole family pays for the mistakes of a man?

I see

Right, the plight of men is generally ignored by society. This is historically true as well.

Men have suffered for societies to exist, men have largely built all the societies we know of and do the dangerous jobs, as they should. Men die and get injured at much higher rates, none of that is to be considered. Anyway, in my view, the typical western point of view is rotten at it's core and most ills we face emanate from that fundamental problem.

Yeah, it is. I don't mean to be a downer but I think system has to crash before any meaningful fundamental change can occur. Until then, politicians will do the bidding of those wo want to use our countries purely as economic markets to be exploited while giving lip service to side issues, while ignoring our fundamental and difficult problems.

To be honest, it's understandable that they don't tackle the core issues, it would take more than politicians to fix and I don't think the populace is up for it yet.

What book is that?

Speaking of book, have you read Tucker's book? I plan to pick it up.

Oh, not really gonna comment on Milo lol. You were talking about the Quran earlier, huh?

The left likes to pretend that gender is a social construct, that there no such things as masculine or feminine traits. Then they go on to claim they are the other gender because they think they exhibit traits of the other gender. Have cake and eat it too. Gender and sex are synonymous. One might be a feminine man, but they are a man. If they think they are the other sex then they are clearly mentally ill.

Again, gender and sex are synonymous. Only relatively recently have people started trying to pervert this. I will take your point that one can not claim that leftists are are a monolith and thus they are not all hypocritical in the way they view gender, but i assure you plenty are. Who cares about the meaning of words and societies idea of what a man and a woman is? Me, I think it actually matters quite a bit and I don't like it when sick people are indulged and their views pushed on the rest of society. Instead, I think we should recognize that these people are the sex/gender they were born as but might not be typical. I certainly do not support making being "trans" hip and embracing it as something that's even brave and encouraging children to adopt this ideology if they have the inclination or even to irreversibly mutilate their genitals. Might matter just a little bit. I won't buy into it by even using their pronouns.

@wahx

I will be honest, the demographics of who gets abortions is the main reason I support it. I'm 100% a pragmatist. More babies born to single black mothers would very much be bad news. Ignoring late term abortions, which simply should not be allowed. No lives are ruined as you can give up the child for adoption and if one's life WAS somehow ruined as a result, it would be because of their actions. " I did something that predictably necessitates the killing of a human to prevent my life from being negatively impacted so let me kill them." Nah. In no way is this like self defense and that's a bit of a "whataboutery".

@wahx Every decision is basically a cost/benefit analysis. If killing is self defense was to be compared to abortion, the only thing remotely comparable would be abortion where the mother's life is at risk. I support abortion in that case. I just disagree with applying analogy that to non-life threatening pregnancies.

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It's not that I even oppose abortion, I generally support it for practical reasons as I stated before. I just didn't think the analogy was relevant to abortion generally, but rather to a small subset of cases. I don't support abortion after the fetus has an ability to feel pain or has brain function, I forget when this generally develops. I think men have every right to have an opinion on the issue as they are also a part of society and effected. You could say they are effected less, but people have legitimate views on all sorts of issues that effect them less than others. Certainly it's fine to oppose abortion if you think it's murder, although one should be able to make an argument for that claim.

@wahx

@wahx
Via google:
**Gender**, the state of being male or female.
**Sex**, either of the two main categories (male and female) into which humans and many other living things are divided on the basis of their reproductive functions.

What do you mean by "accepting trans people"? I accept that some people claim to be the sex/gender that they are not and some of those people then want to mutilate their genitalia into a non-functioning approximation of those belonging to the opposite sex/gender. I accept that reality. What further than this am I required to do lest I be uncompassionate? I think I want what is best for these people by not encouraging their mental illness and clinical mutilation. This is especially true of minors. Psychiatry is not a science and I don't respect it as such. There is not even verification that one's brain functions in a different way before they diagnose a person with gender dysmorphia or whatever the diagnosis is. A person claims to feel a certain way and that's it. They might as well self-diagnose. What percentage of trans people actually have abnormal brains? No one cares, you just send them down a pre-approved path with little consideration. Our society, rather than looking on these people with the pity they deserve, think they are brave. I'm sorry, a man is not a woman. A person with a penis is not a woman. A person who has inverted their penis is not a woman. They might be "trans", but they are distinct from a woman. Words have meanings, they are a trans man. Not a woman or a trans woman. TERFs are right to make the distinction.

@wahx The poor should not have a say on the tax rate of the rich. Only felons or those in the industry should have a say in the justice system. Only immigrants should vote for immigration policy. Only those subject to the draft should vote for foreign policy. I could go on. I don't know what is meant by "final say" but I think men have a right to vote for politicians (men or women) that will create the kind of society they want to live in.

Evolution. It seems that most people who oppose the idea do so because their own personal incredulity. The way evolution functions makes sense and we know it occurs. There is basically no difference between so-called "micro" and "macro evolution" other than time.

What is great about it exactly?

Scientific theories are revised as better evidence is discovered, that's what makes it science and not dogma. That is not to say that there is no such thing as "scientific dogma", what happens when the evidence is not put first. When that happens, it's not science at all. I do think nature is amazing and complex. I don't see that as a reason to believe in something more complex, unprecedented and untestable like the supernatural. We can observe some things that support the theory of evolution, quite a few things actually. The same can not be said of creation theory or ID. There are also things that don't make sense if one was creating beings, flaws or vestigial structures. I'm not really knowledgeable on the subject but I think this video speaks to some of the issues brought up about abiogenesis, which is really a separate issue from evolution. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1xnYFCZ9Yg

@Draco#0592 I see that debate got pretty lively but I'll respond to your comment before reading the rest. How does horizontal gene transfer disprove evolution? Again, I don't claim to be very knowledgeable in this matter, but I think I've seen it argued that such a HGT was found in humans and a primates, which is supposed to have come from such a situation but then passed down through reproduction. I might be wrong, it has been years since I watched that video. Sorry if it's a foolish question, I haven't been interested in evolution for years. Also, I understand that you think some evolutionary scientists might be wrong, but how do you know you are accurately applying the label of "liar"? That's quite a different thing.

@Bogatyr Bogumir It's my understanding that there are some vestigial structures in humans. Have you read about those common claims and disagree?

Oh, what happened to Draco?

lol, I guess so

I don't understand people getting so emotional over these things. I guess it's ego.

@Bogatyr Bogumir The common claims I mentioned was just to common claims of vestigial structures on humans. The list of vestigial structures can easily be found and you either find it compelling or you don't, I don't think good bumps or ear muscle perform any real function in humans. The same with wisdom teeth now that our jaws are shorter or nipples in men...or third and fourth nipples. There are others but that's enough for here. The evidence, when taken in total, is pretty significant to me. Anyway, this is just supporting evidence for evolution and I'm fine with people being wrong. 😉 It is quite a coincidence, I must say, and a bad design. Oh, also look up the giraffes laryngeal nerve. Probably videos about it on YouTube.

Oh, new qotd. I vote authoritarianism, despite having ben a libertarian in the past.

Rear leg bones in whales 😉

Anyway, I get your point of view. We will have to agree to disagree.

@Enigmatic★Chromatic Left wing authoritarianism such as what? Leninism? I've looked into Strasserism a LITTLE and I agree that land and natural resources should be state controlled to serve the nation. Not rented, speculated, privately owned and passed down. I'm for their meritocratic state schools. I'm a bit indifferent on their ideas on how to run factories. I'm against their agriculture fetish. They were completely wrong on race.

Everything fails without nationalism and a sense of a unified people, this would be especially true in multi-culti America with it's elevated racial tensions. I wouldn't say the far right is against capitalism really, I would say they seek to separate productive behavior from exploitive. I have no problem with people earning a wage or the existence of income disparity. I have no problem with buying and selling personal goods. In my mind though, no one would own a large business as much as they would just be put in charge of operations. Their pay and continued employment dependent on their performance. No shares to be sold and no speculation on goods and materials. No profit from money manipulation, no interest rate. I like the idea of money serving only to buy personal items and being otherwise useless. I'm not sure where I'm headed on economic issues and I can't label myself.

@Deleted User Hitler was not a nationalist but the anti-racialist Strassers were? Come on man, both had their issues. I'm only recently slightly looked into Strasserism and I support some of their ideas, the biggest being opposition to private land/resource ownership. The gov structure they propose is alright, not sure if it's ideal. Seems a little too close to representative democracy for my liking but I would have to research more.

Why have immigrants at all? Wasn't integration only ONE option they gave for dealing with immigrants?