And that's what people need to think before they have children.

Those what ifs.

Just incase.

Limiting the laws should be considered tbh.

They ought to, but why should we punish them and society for accidents and mistakes that occur because of human nature

What about this: the dad dies and the mother cannot provide? Should they have considered that possibility?

I'm not saying this is common, I'm saying that we need to have more understanding for the nature of this problem: this is always a shitty thing for everybody

Then you send the child to a better family.

Why? They rarely have good lives. Probably will be miserable in an orphanage.

lots of children go unadopted

That's cruel

It's cruelty for moral absolutism's sake

We do need to understand mother nature, absolutely but, how about those people who got pregnant because they were stupid, and can support the child but don't want one.

We need to limit the laws for those type of people.

They are fully formed by 24 weeks.

I guess, and the best way to do that is to increase education levels, not reduce availability of legal and safe abortion practices

And some people abort their children at over 24 weeks. That's murder literally, the baby is there, functioning.

reducing availability of legal and safe abortion practices most likely won't limit abortions as much as you think it would

You know under 24 weeks can be okay I suppose but there's some dumb people who are doing it after 24 weeks. Like what are you doing?

It probably won't, but it's a start.

at some point it's murder and should be illegal no matter what

"Of the 699,202 abortions reported to the CDC in 2012, 0.17% were at or after 21 weeks and occurred in a state where it was possible to have a post viability abortion for any reason."

Idk why this is such an issue for you guys, seems like an extremely rare thing

That's good then.

There's a lot of people in australia unfortunately who abort their child even after 20 weeks.

That I don't find okay.

Ok yeah, if you can abort it early, yeah that's fine but like.. i just feel for the poor children.

Me neither, but let's not pretend that the way to reduce abortions is to limit abortions

limit them legally I mean

They'll find a way to do anything, people find a way to do cocaine and it's illegal.

the best way is to improve education on contraception

It's like that for every law.

totally, so lets make them safe

and educate people better

I agree with that, make them more educated.

and make the procedure legal so we don't have to worry about sketchy shit fucking up unborn children and their mothers

but late term abortions are murders, so that's different....

Yeah it's a whole different thing, but it shouldn't be allowed

They think abortion is a move forward for women's rights. What fucking women's rights, to kill a child at over 20 weeks. Like idk.

I needa go make myself a coffee

Be back soon/