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2018-10-03 22:32:34 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

suh

2018-10-03 22:33:14 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

nah not at all just wanted to see the community

2018-10-03 22:34:32 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

For sure. Lotsa servers are like that

2018-10-03 22:36:32 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

Yeah I try and stay somewhat caught up on what's going on. Definitely 100% a liberal, not trying to start fights here at all just curious what's happenin in conservative groups.

2018-10-03 22:37:16 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

Like hearing from all kinds of people to inform my opinions

2018-10-03 22:38:07 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

Great question haha

2018-10-03 22:38:38 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

Didn't say it was a hard question, just a great one

2018-10-03 22:38:51 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

About the Ford assault specifically?

2018-10-03 22:41:14 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

For sure. Yeah idk because I think there's a couple scenarios here, none of which are proven just yet. He did assault her and he's lying about it, he did assault her and he doesn't remember it and he's telling the truth, or he's telling the truth. My hunch is he's lying about it. Ford's accusation (the initial letter) was so early on in the process of the nomination so it's a compelling accusation. What are your thoughts on it?

2018-10-03 22:41:39 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

hahaha omg my tag

2018-10-03 22:45:54 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

Yeah so say it was a stunt, she sent her letter to Feinstein when Kavanaugh was just on a list of potential nominees. Do you think the dems had letters ready for every potential nominee that were all fabricated from different women? Genuine question, if that's the case.

2018-10-03 22:47:22 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

And innocent until proven guilty usually refers to court cases, no one's trying to convict him of anything, so the threshold is definitely different. I'd say if there's like a reasonable (40% or higher idk) chance of a SC justice nominee doing something super fucked up then that's a no go. Not that we've gotten to 40% yet idk really.

2018-10-03 22:48:02 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

I think waiting to release the accusation was a stunt 100%. But not the actual accusation.

2018-10-03 22:48:28 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

And it's super annoying they did that, releasing that accusation right before the vote. Not cool.

2018-10-03 22:49:37 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

I'm not aware of these contradictions, can you link them?

2018-10-03 22:50:29 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

And yea she talks about why she waited, the benefit from helping society (in her mind) finally outweighed the difficulty of talking about her (alleged) rape

2018-10-03 22:50:43 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

Yeah for sure dude imma type out my reply, tag me if you wanna reply later

2018-10-03 22:54:02 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

Just looked it up - all the witnesses claim they do not recall which is really specific, doesn't mean they deny it. One of them still maintains that she believes Ford actually, despite not recollecting the event, but another witness says they never saw Brett behave in that kind of way. Real mixed bag of witnesses, so not compelling evidence for sure. But doesn't sway me in the other direction, towards complete innocence.

2018-10-03 23:08:53 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

True, she claims she's certain but like you say, memories aren't very good

2018-10-03 23:09:36 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

also more relevant for off-topic, the show Maniac on netflix is off the chain. Would highly recommend to anyone

2018-10-03 23:09:48 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

I also now see the irony of saying "relevant for off-topic"

2018-10-03 23:10:07 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

There's a lot of details she's super fuzzy on

2018-10-03 23:10:12 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

like, tons of details

2018-10-03 23:10:32 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

I'm rewatching it rn, I like seeing all the familiar faces that I missed the first time through

2018-10-03 23:11:13 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

it's a really small cast so I missed that people had multiple roles throughout

2018-10-03 23:11:20 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

for some people

2018-10-03 23:11:57 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

Yeah I've heard it's a decent representation of a few mental disorders, which is really cool

2018-10-03 23:13:49 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

Me neither. Very grateful for the mild issues I have to deal with mentally, things could be so much worse.

2018-10-03 23:14:47 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

I feel like I identify more as a libcucc than a "Obama Lovin' Libtard" can I get that tag instead

2018-10-04 01:59:39 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

Yeah man I loved it @Crasseus Iโ€™m a sucker for those kinds of shows

2018-10-04 17:07:54 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general-politics]  

^ that's fucking funny who tf is reviewing these papers

2018-10-04 22:12:16 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

Wow you have a job? What an idiot real men lurk in their parents basements

2018-10-05 04:50:14 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

Good place is amazing

2018-10-05 04:50:19 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

Maniac

2018-10-05 04:50:33 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

The Patton Oswald standup

2018-10-05 04:50:40 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

Might have spelled that wrong

2018-10-05 07:20:17 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

@Crasseus futurama, parks n rec are the comfort shows, legion is legit one of my favorite dramas or Fringe, Twin Peaks. Lots of adult swim too, eric Andre, r&m, Tim and Eric. You?

2018-10-05 21:28:59 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

Yeah I only sometimes have time for shows, been enjoying some free time lately

2018-10-05 22:58:53 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general-politics]  

man that debate in <#418657008409903105> was dumb wish I could talk in there for that

2018-10-05 22:59:14 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general-politics]  

both peeps were switching the conversation to diff things really quickly

2018-10-05 23:00:33 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general-politics]  

you were more coherent

2018-10-05 23:01:57 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general-politics]  

Meaning I agree, I think both of you could have stayed on a single point a little better but you're right he was guiding you in and out of diff subjects quickly

2018-10-05 23:02:26 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general-politics]  

Doesn't make for good conversation

2018-10-05 23:03:47 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general-politics]  

Not sure who you mean by "them," and idk that can sometimes lead to understanding, but based on that comment it seems like your goal isn't mutual understanding but them wanting to leave

2018-10-05 23:03:57 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general-politics]  

or back to square one like you say

2018-10-05 23:04:48 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general-politics]  

Do you think they see your reasoning in the end or do you think they are frustrated?

2018-10-05 23:04:51 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general-politics]  

hahaha yeah for sure

2018-10-05 23:05:08 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general-politics]  

I just think there's a subtle but crucial difference between debating for understanding and debating for winning

2018-10-05 23:05:21 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general-politics]  

mutual compassion vs tribalism

2018-10-05 23:05:27 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general-politics]  

good faith vs bad faith

2018-10-05 23:05:41 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general-politics]  

not accusing you of being on either end of the spectrum btw just musing on this

2018-10-05 23:06:55 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general-politics]  

I think that will make people dig their heels in more

2018-10-05 23:07:57 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general-politics]  

You will end up with very stubborn debaters on both ends of the spectrum...which is exactly how we got here

2018-10-05 23:08:04 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general-politics]  

here being the modern political climate

2018-10-05 23:09:53 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general-politics]  

But you know both sides think that right? How do you not see that that behavior is mirrored by democrats and republicans, and is harmful?

2018-10-05 23:10:03 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general-politics]  

Winning is inconsequential

2018-10-05 23:10:27 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general-politics]  

traded for what?

2018-10-05 23:13:50 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

fuck yeah it's so good donaldus

2018-10-05 23:13:53 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general]  

brickleberry is hilarious

2018-10-05 23:16:37 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general-politics]  

I guess, I don't see that as compelling evidence for what we're talking about. the #walkaway thing feels incredibly viral and unrelated to how many republican and democratic voters there actually are. There's also tons of reports that democratic voter registration is surging, does that count as winning? Why would that count as winning if the goal is a better america? We should identify goals for our country to move towards, and moving towards those goals should be "winning," not cucking the libs or whatever

2018-10-05 23:17:32 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general-politics]  

I guess I'm just thrown off by the phrase winning. Feels incredibly juvenile, like politics are just sports that don't actually impact peoples lives.

2018-10-05 23:18:42 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general-politics]  

truueee can we talk about that? That's much more interesting to me

2018-10-05 23:19:05 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general-politics]  

For sure I feel that, I just detest the use of the word win if that makes sense, feels so childish

2018-10-05 23:19:13 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general-politics]  

but like what do you guys think are big problems of our time?

2018-10-05 23:19:45 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general-politics]  

lol

2018-10-05 23:19:52 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general-politics]  

let's be more specific maybe?

2018-10-05 23:21:03 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general-politics]  

Ok but I even see these as being secondary to more core issues. Why are those issues important?

2018-10-05 23:21:16 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general-politics]  

you rang

2018-10-05 23:23:14 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general-politics]  

and there's a tremendous bias from conservatives to whatever trump does... as evidenced by your parenthesis after

2018-10-05 23:23:45 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general-politics]  

Ok but let's pull back a sec. Redd I think you hit the core thing you're worried about: freedoms being hurt by various factors right?

2018-10-05 23:24:03 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general-politics]  

Let's say that's a problem, and largely I agree, that should be protected

2018-10-05 23:24:14 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general-politics]  

So we want our citizens to be safe and secure right

2018-10-05 23:24:34 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general-politics]  

I'm just like establishing the good faith of this conversation, we have the same interests at heart

2018-10-05 23:24:48 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general-politics]  

We want our people to prosper, in terms of health and finances

2018-10-05 23:24:54 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general-politics]  

all of our people, rich and poor yea

2018-10-05 23:25:10 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general-politics]  

At least to the extent of a meritocracy

2018-10-05 23:25:11 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general-politics]  

ok cool

2018-10-05 23:25:35 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general-politics]  

So, we want our people to do great. Awesome. Now, there's the question: does a larger government hamper that ability

2018-10-05 23:25:51 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general-politics]  

I assume via beaurocratic inefficiency...?

2018-10-05 23:25:55 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general-politics]  

I spelled that wrong

2018-10-05 23:26:28 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general-politics]  

Dude what I'm a lib talking to you right now about progress you're the one not wanting to talk about this

2018-10-05 23:26:38 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general-politics]  

but anyway Redd, what freedoms does it hamper?

2018-10-05 23:27:02 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general-politics]  

like I'm not inherently trying to argue with you rn

2018-10-05 23:27:09 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general-politics]  

just discuss this *super* important stuff

2018-10-05 23:27:36 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general-politics]  

ok yeah we want to avoid authoritarianism and losing money to inefficiency right

2018-10-05 23:27:48 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general-politics]  

I'm guessing that's what you mean by tyranny

2018-10-05 23:28:17 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general-politics]  

ya same haha

2018-10-05 23:28:34 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general-politics]  

I think that liberals don't want a bloated government

2018-10-05 23:28:39 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general-politics]  

I don't think anybody does

2018-10-05 23:28:50 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general-politics]  

And if they do... I disagree with them

2018-10-05 23:28:57 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general-politics]  

yea?

2018-10-05 23:29:53 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general-politics]  

I try to avoid labels and stick to specifics, but you can consider me whatever you want

2018-10-05 23:30:40 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general-politics]  

But I think there's a difference between a big government and a government that is too large to function efficiently, financially. What are programs that you think shouldn't exist via the government?

2018-10-05 23:31:00 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general-politics]  

Yeah don't really care about labels they seem unnecessary to individual conversations

2018-10-05 23:31:17 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general-politics]  

So federal crimes shouldn't be investigated?

2018-10-05 23:31:29 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general-politics]  

or... just shouldn't exist I guess?

2018-10-05 23:31:48 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general-politics]  

Wait so you want an unregulated currency and no federal protection from crime?

2018-10-05 23:32:20 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general-politics]  

ok so you're really saying that the FBI, CIA, and NSA are too big for what they should be

2018-10-05 23:32:30 UTC [THE TRUMP REPUBLIC #general-politics]  

and could be smaller, but not nonexistant?

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