Autism is not linked to vaccines

Does herd immunity mean nothing to you @hootersforshooters

Also you are literally throwing aside facts that @say has put to you

Herd immunity means as long as enough of a Population is immunised to a disease that disease can not spread through them to more vulnerable members of the community who can't v he immunised

I am for informed consent and educating those who believe that health should be associated with politics

No because you can vaccinate immigrants they aren't vaccine repellent

Well then that's their right

Children are different however

No to send a immuninisable child to school without vaccines regardless of your personal view on vaccines is neglectful of the child's health

You are potentially exposing a child who can not make their own decisions to diseases which can prove fatal

Their is a difference between a pin prick and a bit of redness for a day and contracting measles

There not their

Children can not give consent

And if their caretaker hit them or neglected to feed them or fed them rotten food they would be taken away from the care giver

Yes authorised by the state

The caretakers job is to prevent harm coming to the child

If they refuse to immunise the child and the child then receives measles which is entirely preventable for the majority of the populous then the care taker has failed in their job

@hootersforshooters if you are comparing the possible risks of vaccines to the harm they prevent you need to do some fact checking

The rewards completely outweigh the risks

That is why they exist

Yes because measles had been practically eradicated due to vaccines

Their is nothing wrong with autism

I have aspergers and 146 iq I'm also not gonna die of measles

Also mmr does not cause autism so yh

@hootersforshooters do u live in Europe or america or another contjnent

Statistics are all important and comparing all the recorded statistics not just cherry picking ones that support your current point is the basis of a coherant argument in any debate regarding science

That's because the chance of getting autism from vaccines is zero

Yes but statistics are still a very important point

By that logic we shouldn't relocate a dislocated shoulder because we could cause harm

Or ct or xrays either

Because radiation

Broken ribs are a common side affect of cpr

You are hiding behind a straw man

If you don't like a valid argument you call it a straw man lol

Or that strawman

Saying that its not on topic

The greater good outweighs the potential costs both societally and personally

Get of your high horse and answer the question which

Is not hard

No you can be for both informed consent to reasonable people and then take away mistreated children and give them medical care when required as children can not give consent

Jails

Are literally forcing people to stay their

Parents are forced by law to send there a children to school

And xrays

And operating on possibly malignant tumours

And pretty much all preemptive medicine

You pick and choose when consent is consent

By your logic an unconscious persons right to consent is passed to the nearest person

In what world is that a thing

But they have no choice on who that is

@Say their not worth the time you can't change their mind the phrase ok boomer applies to this very situation

@hootersforshooters Lol ok boomer

You wouldn't barge into nasa headquarters with no knowledge of propulsion and demand that they rebuild their propulsion system to your specifications

Doctors have to go through ethics classes so quite a few hours worth I imagune

The noun for morality is ethics

( used with a plural verb ) moral principles, as of an individual:His ethics forbade betrayal of a confidence.

( used with a singular verb ) that branch of philosophy dealing with values relating to human conduct, with respect to the rightness and wrongness of certain actions and to the goodness and badness of the motives and ends of such actions.

So tell me again ethics and morality are not the same

Ok boomer

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