Message from @Mattie
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@Say you think you're allowed to harm people .
Yes but statistics are still a very important point
That you're allowed to coerce people.
You may have to cause someone pain to fix a broken bone, but in the end, you won’t die from that broken bone
@Mattie not to this subject matter.
You might break a few ribs while giving CPR, but it’s worth it to save the person’s life
@Say so, you believe in coercion, right?
By that logic we shouldn't relocate a dislocated shoulder because we could cause harm
@hootersforshooters so you think we shouldn’t give people CPR, right?
Cause it might break a few ribs and cause them pain
@Say "You might break a few ribs while giving CPR, but it’s worth it to save the person’s life"
Please stop with the strawman. You're not a real doctor, are you?
Or ct or xrays either
I am
Because radiation
It’s not a strawman
Strawman strawman strawman....
Broken ribs are a common side affect of cpr
You’re saying that it’s unacceptable to potentially harm someone in order to save their life
Coercion, yes or no?
You are hiding behind a straw man
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It's impossible to create a strawman when sticking to the subject matter.
Or that strawman
Saying that its not on topic
Analogies aren’t strawmen
@Mattie um, no......it's not a valid argument. That's why
Analogies are useful to see logical consistency
Inaccurate analogies are, though. False comparison.
The greater good outweighs the potential costs both societally and personally
How is the CPR analogy not analogous
Here we go.....the discussion has broken down to semantics. The first step towards impasse.
Tell me how the CPR example is not analgous
Get of your high horse and answer the question which
Is not hard
@Mattie
"The greater good outweighs the potential costs both societally and personally"
So, then your AREN'T about informed consent, are you? Since this contradicts what you said earlier....
Answer the question
How is the CPR example not analogous
Stop avoiding the question
@Mattie why don't you forget about the horse and repair your contradiction?
@Say because there is no consent.