Message from @Mattie

Discord ID: 643235795259621389


2019-11-10 23:41:30 UTC  

And against travel, right?

2019-11-10 23:41:59 UTC  

I am for informed consent and educating those who believe that health should be associated with politics

2019-11-10 23:42:01 UTC  

And pro-coercion, right?

2019-11-10 23:42:30 UTC  

So.....anti-immigration, right?

2019-11-10 23:43:02 UTC  

No because you can vaccinate immigrants they aren't vaccine repellent

2019-11-10 23:43:22 UTC  

But what if they don't want to be immunized?

2019-11-10 23:43:48 UTC  

Well then that's their right

2019-11-10 23:44:07 UTC  

OK, great. Problem solved. Vaccinate if you want to.

2019-11-10 23:44:22 UTC  

Children are different however

2019-11-10 23:44:32 UTC  

So.....coercion?

2019-11-10 23:45:41 UTC  

No to send a immuninisable child to school without vaccines regardless of your personal view on vaccines is neglectful of the child's health

2019-11-10 23:45:56 UTC  

How so?

2019-11-10 23:46:38 UTC  

Are you trying to say that one form of harm is acceptable whereas another form of harm isn't?

2019-11-10 23:46:43 UTC  

You are potentially exposing a child who can not make their own decisions to diseases which can prove fatal

2019-11-10 23:47:30 UTC  

Their is a difference between a pin prick and a bit of redness for a day and contracting measles

2019-11-10 23:47:36 UTC  

There not their

2019-11-10 23:47:58 UTC  

So, you're a moral relativist?

2019-11-10 23:48:14 UTC  

I thought you were for informed CONSENT?

2019-11-10 23:48:24 UTC  

Children can not give consent

2019-11-10 23:48:37 UTC  

But their caretaker can.

2019-11-10 23:49:24 UTC  

And if their caretaker hit them or neglected to feed them or fed them rotten food they would be taken away from the care giver

2019-11-10 23:49:40 UTC  

Then they wouldn't be a caretaker.

2019-11-10 23:49:40 UTC  

Based

2019-11-10 23:50:12 UTC  

And then another caretaker would be initiated, if there was someone willing to be a caretaker.

2019-11-10 23:50:31 UTC  

Not vaccinating your kids when you’re able to is child abuse

2019-11-10 23:50:32 UTC  

A caretaker doesn't initiate harm.

2019-11-10 23:50:32 UTC  

Yes authorised by the state

2019-11-10 23:51:01 UTC  

The caretakers job is to prevent harm coming to the child

2019-11-10 23:51:02 UTC  

Giving potential harm is abuse.

2019-11-10 23:51:32 UTC  

Allowing your child to contract an easily preventable disease is abuse

2019-11-10 23:51:34 UTC  

Yea, the caretaker's choice is to prevent harm.

2019-11-10 23:52:04 UTC  

@Say allowing you child to be exposed to harm is abuse, yes.

2019-11-10 23:52:10 UTC  

If they refuse to immunise the child and the child then receives measles which is entirely preventable for the majority of the populous then the care taker has failed in their job

2019-11-10 23:53:09 UTC  

@hootersforshooters if you are comparing the possible risks of vaccines to the harm they prevent you need to do some fact checking

2019-11-10 23:53:50 UTC  
2019-11-10 23:54:10 UTC  

The rewards completely outweigh the risks

2019-11-10 23:54:23 UTC  

That is why they exist

2019-11-10 23:54:27 UTC  

Even if it did cause autism, you’re better off being vaccinated

2019-11-10 23:54:34 UTC  

More people have died or been harmed this century in the US by the measles vaccine than by contracting measles. 149 times greater. So, yes....there is a greater chance of killing you child through the vaccine than there is from contracting the disease. So, I would say that giving the measles vaccine is more harmful than the disease.

2019-11-10 23:55:06 UTC  

Yes because measles had been practically eradicated due to vaccines

2019-11-10 23:55:22 UTC  

@Say "Even if it did cause autism, you’re better off being vaccinated"
This is what psychopaths say.