Message from @Mattie
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And against travel, right?
I am for informed consent and educating those who believe that health should be associated with politics
And pro-coercion, right?
So.....anti-immigration, right?
No because you can vaccinate immigrants they aren't vaccine repellent
But what if they don't want to be immunized?
Well then that's their right
OK, great. Problem solved. Vaccinate if you want to.
Children are different however
So.....coercion?
No to send a immuninisable child to school without vaccines regardless of your personal view on vaccines is neglectful of the child's health
How so?
Are you trying to say that one form of harm is acceptable whereas another form of harm isn't?
You are potentially exposing a child who can not make their own decisions to diseases which can prove fatal
Their is a difference between a pin prick and a bit of redness for a day and contracting measles
There not their
So, you're a moral relativist?
I thought you were for informed CONSENT?
Children can not give consent
But their caretaker can.
And if their caretaker hit them or neglected to feed them or fed them rotten food they would be taken away from the care giver
Then they wouldn't be a caretaker.
Based
And then another caretaker would be initiated, if there was someone willing to be a caretaker.
Not vaccinating your kids when you’re able to is child abuse
A caretaker doesn't initiate harm.
Yes authorised by the state
The caretakers job is to prevent harm coming to the child
Giving potential harm is abuse.
Allowing your child to contract an easily preventable disease is abuse
Yea, the caretaker's choice is to prevent harm.
@Say allowing you child to be exposed to harm is abuse, yes.
If they refuse to immunise the child and the child then receives measles which is entirely preventable for the majority of the populous then the care taker has failed in their job
@hootersforshooters if you are comparing the possible risks of vaccines to the harm they prevent you need to do some fact checking
The rewards completely outweigh the risks
That is why they exist
Even if it did cause autism, you’re better off being vaccinated
More people have died or been harmed this century in the US by the measles vaccine than by contracting measles. 149 times greater. So, yes....there is a greater chance of killing you child through the vaccine than there is from contracting the disease. So, I would say that giving the measles vaccine is more harmful than the disease.
Yes because measles had been practically eradicated due to vaccines
@Say "Even if it did cause autism, you’re better off being vaccinated"
This is what psychopaths say.