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2017-10-25 01:41:16 UTC

First! Also here's a spicy take to break things in https://twitter.com/DianaDee16/status/892124659868549120

2017-10-25 01:44:14 UTC

341 likes...

2017-10-25 01:46:18 UTC

Become single mother. Profit?

2017-10-25 01:47:24 UTC

"No, I'm a MAN. How dare you misgender me just because I'm carrying a child!"

2017-10-25 01:49:24 UTC

🎩 Speech

2017-10-25 01:50:21 UTC

So you are a member of the patriarchy and are trying to erase wymans

2017-10-25 15:13:52 UTC

My thread about equality just went up on the reddit. If anyone wants to talk about the benefits of equality versus inequality I'd be interested.

2017-10-25 21:52:42 UTC

@NeoSeraphi - I would. Send me a private message. Please include the reddit thread link.

2017-10-25 21:52:59 UTC

ya'll, open chat is welcome here too

2017-10-25 21:53:27 UTC

Understand, but I like voice chats and the conversations I tend to have are long.

2017-10-25 21:53:48 UTC

Oh, uh, I don't want to have a voice chat about this kind of thing.

2017-10-25 21:53:50 UTC

there's a politics voice chat room here

2017-10-25 21:53:53 UTC

Too easy for me to be overheard.

2017-10-25 21:54:33 UTC

JDM - Are you working with sargon to create this discord or where did this come from? I found it because someone dumped a link to the server into my server.

2017-10-25 21:55:47 UTC

Sargon is aware of it, but hasn't officially endorsed it yet

2017-10-25 21:55:58 UTC

he said "feel free to create one, I don't have time"

2017-10-25 21:56:29 UTC

I've made him aware of it after the fact

2017-10-25 21:56:32 UTC

that we exist

2017-10-25 21:56:34 UTC

JDM, thank you for doing so.

2017-10-25 21:56:38 UTC

Looks nice so far.

2017-10-25 21:56:48 UTC

quality is important πŸ˜ƒ

2017-10-25 21:57:08 UTC

quality and professionalism support good discussions

2017-10-26 12:18:09 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/373082876134293516/T74iesm.jpg

2017-10-26 12:47:51 UTC

Also, the imgur post celebrating 25 years of BJ Blazkowicz was quickly derailed into 'zomg I can't believe how many people are complaining about killing Nazis so I'm gonna kill all the Nazis in this game fuck Nazis fuck conservatives they're pretty much Nazis'

2017-10-26 12:48:39 UTC

I mean, look at all these Nazis. Soooooooooo many Nazis. Like, maybe even half a row of them! Soon there might be a FULL row of them!

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2017-10-26 12:50:07 UTC

Imagine if fuckin' noone had shown up for Spencer's event. How fucking hilariously insulting would that have been. But... nope.

2017-10-27 03:49:16 UTC

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2017-10-27 03:49:18 UTC

hmmmmm

2017-10-27 04:12:24 UTC

What a time to be alive that Trump is a president and we get to read JFK files

2017-10-27 10:17:45 UTC

Shamelessly copypasted from someone else:

Three things they are probably hiding:
1) People - some agents in Cuba and Mexico could still be alive, or their children.
2) Methods - they kept a certain invisible ink secret for over 100 years.
3) Incompetency - my guess is that both the US IC and Cuba/Russia IC all knew far too much about LHO, but the US was sloppy on him and the Cuba/Russians coddled him too much, and both sides were gobsmacked when their "idiot pawn" turned into a "queen". ICs hate showing how stupid, lazy, and down right boring they actually are to the general public. Better to maintain the mystique.

2017-10-29 06:29:24 UTC

/pol/ is gonna drop a deuce on the SJWs for Halloween https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/147048073

2017-10-29 06:58:21 UTC

🀦

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2017-10-29 14:46:47 UTC

https://twitter.com/natalie_allison/status/924326490417848321

I have little doubt that Matt Heimbach is changing the minds of many people, including socialists on the 'other side of the barricade', and that's kinda disturbing really. Pretty sure he was the one who hosted an AMA and even though people want to tell you that it 'went badly' I have no doubt, having read some of his replies, that what he was saying resonated with many people reading

2017-10-29 15:30:01 UTC

An american saying that multicuturalism don't worl

2017-10-29 15:30:03 UTC

work*

2017-10-29 15:30:04 UTC

lol

2017-10-29 15:30:16 UTC

also, he is defending racialized class war

2017-10-29 15:57:01 UTC

Well, that's the irony, right up there with his comments towards BLM about racial segregation

2017-10-29 21:54:05 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/374314978527674378/koo.jpg

2017-10-29 21:57:09 UTC

This dude is a joke

2017-10-29 21:57:22 UTC

I seen one of his videos

2017-10-29 21:57:34 UTC

It was ridiculous

2017-10-29 22:04:28 UTC

It's a little surreal for me, since the last time he was a 'big deal' in any way was back when Bush was in power, and ol' Olbs here positioned as a modern day Edward R Murrow, trying to sound intelligent when most of his arguments boiled down to "bush iz hitlor"

Considering how little I heard from him in the eight years after that, I guess most on the left disposed of their useful idiot. I also think he did actually complain about some of the things Obama was doing, which I suppose didn't do much to help him either.

So, yeah, it's so weird to see him back again, seemingly doing the exact same schtick. It's like I'm stuck in a timewarp

2017-10-29 22:06:39 UTC

He is just a partisan hack

2017-10-29 22:07:07 UTC

Seems like a brain dead person to me

2017-10-29 22:07:20 UTC

Same difference

2017-10-29 22:16:30 UTC

Ah, but how do you *spell his name*?

2017-10-30 19:36:29 UTC

Anyone watch hard bastard? I'm Anglo him and Styx are the only way I keep up with colonial happenings

2017-10-31 05:11:54 UTC

what are everyones opinions on the 8values test. Personally, I think some of the questions are flawed.

2017-10-31 05:11:58 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/374787562486628372/image.png

2017-10-31 05:12:04 UTC

this is what I got btw

2017-10-31 07:38:50 UTC

Been a while since I've done it, but one of these was my most recent (can't remember which)

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/374824525340082177/unknown-20.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/374824525768163328/Screenshot_20170612-213803.jpg

2017-10-31 07:48:09 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/374826868626685955/imaliberal.png

2017-10-31 09:01:07 UTC

An awfully strong belief in "tradition". It seems a lot of the tradition questions lay its eggs in the religious basket, which I guess is an acceptable way of portraying it, but not quite perfect.

2017-10-31 09:02:20 UTC

none of these things are perfect

2017-10-31 09:05:18 UTC

True. But it's an acceptable test nonetheless to get a general idea.

2017-10-31 09:07:16 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/374846780770091008/8value.png

2017-10-31 09:07:38 UTC

I pretty much answered no to all the religious questions which gave me that. Lol.

2017-10-31 09:41:45 UTC

i got liberal

2017-10-31 10:11:56 UTC

same

2017-10-31 14:10:33 UTC

I think this test should be more nuanced, for example, I am in favor of marijuana legalization, but for other drugs, such as meth, I view these differently.

2017-10-31 14:20:10 UTC

they should be viewed individually

2017-10-31 14:28:53 UTC

@meratrix Do you wish to elaborate on that stance?

2017-10-31 14:31:21 UTC

@Soyaman whats your postion

2017-10-31 14:31:52 UTC

positionΒ±

2017-10-31 14:33:01 UTC

marijuana is a naturally growing substance, meth requires manufacturing.

2017-10-31 14:34:26 UTC

But if this is the requrement tahn Morphine also should be legal

2017-10-31 14:35:03 UTC

I think it should still be regulated, like alcohol.

2017-10-31 14:35:23 UTC

So that isn't a problem with morphine because it is already regulated

2017-10-31 14:35:33 UTC

in what way

2017-10-31 14:35:43 UTC

should it be avalible for rec use?

2017-10-31 14:35:53 UTC

and regulated there

2017-10-31 14:36:27 UTC

yes, but similar laws to alcohol, especially with regards to things like driving.

2017-10-31 14:36:33 UTC

and age

2017-10-31 14:36:56 UTC

that is fair

2017-10-31 14:37:07 UTC

but i think it should apply to all drugs

2017-10-31 14:38:47 UTC

for the sake of removing it as funding for cartel/gang activity

2017-10-31 14:39:07 UTC

I can see your point there as well.

2017-10-31 14:41:05 UTC

as long as these things are illegal they will fund even worse activities like human trafficking

2017-10-31 14:44:21 UTC

I guess a good way to go about it would be to have much stricter regulations on things like meth and heroine because those can actually kill you from an overdose, while marijuana cannot because of the amount you would have to smoke to die is impossible to smoke in the amount of time needed.

2017-10-31 14:46:01 UTC

If your method of conducting whether it should be legal or not is based off arbitariness then that's not really a good position to hold.

2017-10-31 14:46:20 UTC

but if the meth and heroine are regulated they will be less likely to kill you,

2017-10-31 14:46:26 UTC

Hash and opium are naturally grown.

2017-10-31 14:46:28 UTC

I'm not against weed liberation

2017-10-31 14:46:29 UTC

you know how much each dose it

2017-10-31 14:46:38 UTC

is*

2017-10-31 14:46:42 UTC

Many things are manufactured that is good for you.

2017-10-31 14:46:47 UTC

So both sides of that coin is just... Bad.

2017-10-31 14:46:48 UTC

but, i see people talking about it like a magic solution to "end violence"

2017-10-31 14:47:07 UTC

and this pisses me off

2017-10-31 14:47:10 UTC

It seems like your opinion on this is more based off popular culture / widespread appeal more so than reason.

2017-10-31 14:47:13 UTC

Which is fair.

2017-10-31 14:47:21 UTC

As long as you recognise it.

2017-10-31 14:48:06 UTC

@Fulcrum010 could you go futher into that argument

2017-10-31 14:48:21 UTC

Hippies.

2017-10-31 14:48:24 UTC

He's talking about hippies.

2017-10-31 14:48:31 UTC

ohhhhhhh

2017-10-31 14:49:04 UTC

because i think it will reduce the amount of violence by removing it from the black markets

2017-10-31 14:49:16 UTC

it might lower a bit

2017-10-31 14:49:27 UTC

but, i don't think it will be a significant %

2017-10-31 14:49:49 UTC

plus, it will be useless if the governement don't do anything else to end violence in poor communities

2017-10-31 14:50:04 UTC

It'll lower gang violence, not common violence.

2017-10-31 14:50:15 UTC

yes that is my claim

2017-10-31 14:50:42 UTC

If gang violence is a non issue then obviously it's useless, but if it's the biggest concern then it's paramount. (Of course other drugs play a huge role too so just taking one off the list isn't going to do THAT much)

2017-10-31 14:51:26 UTC

i think it is the largest concern though

2017-10-31 14:51:37 UTC

But despite all the positivity there's also serious health concern that gets ignored by the weed community.

2017-10-31 14:51:46 UTC

want to discuss in voice?

2017-10-31 14:52:00 UTC

I was gonna watch some hentai but yea sure why not.

2017-10-31 14:52:11 UTC

i will listen to it

2017-10-31 14:52:18 UTC

because, i don't have a mic

2017-10-31 14:52:19 UTC

lol

2017-10-31 15:16:52 UTC

I would join voice, but unfortunately, i have class. So see ya later.

2017-11-01 12:31:06 UTC

Heh, at first I read this thinking you meant the different definition of "class"

2017-11-01 13:10:09 UTC

Plebs.

2017-11-01 16:11:44 UTC

Soooooo I noticed mogg has been saying some disturbing shit about censuring the internet because abuse on twitter to female MPs. Think I need a new rabbi could forgive the papist shit, by if he is just going to follow Theresa he isn't the answer to anything

2017-11-01 16:15:59 UTC

Seems to be the trend lately.

2017-11-01 16:16:06 UTC

Looks great to start

2017-11-01 16:16:23 UTC

Then "we must control the internet"

2017-11-01 16:18:38 UTC

It's madness. Not too long ago they were slagging off the Chinese for the Great Wall now all of a sudden they want that too basically and to look people up for typing words. I. Disgusted this won't end well not when even one knows someone who has been down for hate crime. Plus the copper moan they have resources then use what they have pursuing this instead of actual crime it doesn't look good to people

2017-11-01 16:20:00 UTC

Fuck me spell check scared me over with that lol. Hopefully makes sense

2017-11-01 16:20:23 UTC

But....if they stop Muslims from running sex rings with young British girls, how will they stop sargon from not threatening to rape Jess?

2017-11-01 16:25:03 UTC

MUH CENTRISM BOYS πŸ‘ŒπŸ‘ŒπŸ‘Œ

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/375319336384069633/Screenshot_20171101-111435.jpg

2017-11-01 16:27:08 UTC

The alt Centrist NAZI!!!!!!!!

2017-11-01 16:27:12 UTC

REEEEEEEEEEEE

2017-11-01 16:38:28 UTC

Bottom half

2017-11-01 19:32:22 UTC

released the journel but its written in sand scribbles

2017-11-01 21:51:17 UTC

I swear I'm not a communist

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2017-11-01 21:51:53 UTC

lies

2017-11-01 21:54:01 UTC

He is a spy

2017-11-01 21:54:08 UTC

How is that communist?

2017-11-01 21:54:42 UTC

i think hes joking

2017-11-01 21:54:52 UTC

That's why I'm asking. Lol.

2017-11-01 21:55:20 UTC

i think he meant progressive

2017-11-01 21:55:46 UTC

Being scientifically progressive is very different from the "Social progressive"

2017-11-01 22:00:42 UTC

How do I link 8 values?

2017-11-01 22:01:58 UTC

Ok I figured it out

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/375404127502598144/8_values.png

2017-11-01 22:03:25 UTC

I wonder if my results have changed

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/375404491920506893/wNS8KBhiyjcJwAAAABJRU5ErkJggg.png

2017-11-01 22:04:08 UTC

alt centrist confirmed!!!!!!!!

2017-11-01 22:04:22 UTC

Very much so

2017-11-01 22:04:52 UTC

hwite malesssssss

2017-11-01 22:05:50 UTC

What have you ever done to benefit this planet?

2017-11-01 22:06:14 UTC

i shitpost dank memesss

2017-11-01 22:07:05 UTC

Those two are some of my favorite living memes

2017-11-01 22:08:02 UTC

they are sacred memes

2017-11-01 22:13:12 UTC

Pretty close to the same

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/375406954593648651/A3PXNdpWUWNIAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC.png

2017-11-01 22:13:31 UTC

πŸ’―

2017-11-01 22:14:11 UTC

I'm basically Hitler guys

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/375407201365524480/Screenshot_20170917-233900.jpg

2017-11-01 22:14:25 UTC

Where did you take that?

2017-11-01 22:14:38 UTC

this one is a lot more accurate

2017-11-01 22:15:12 UTC

Where?

2017-11-01 22:15:17 UTC

Linkkkk

2017-11-01 22:15:44 UTC

hmmmmmm

2017-11-01 22:17:13 UTC

Why do you think this one is more accurate?

2017-11-01 22:18:16 UTC

i think this shows the main reason behind why people believe the horseshoe theory

2017-11-01 22:20:37 UTC

if you put the political spectrum on one axis it doesnt properly represent anti authoritarian policy

2017-11-01 22:20:58 UTC

I think there are several axes collapsed into one or two

2017-11-01 22:21:15 UTC

my axe!

2017-11-01 22:21:23 UTC

I'm working on extracting them

2017-11-01 22:22:28 UTC

I think libertarianism vs authoritarianism is separate from statism or centralized power

2017-11-01 22:23:13 UTC

Statism souldnt rely be a term

2017-11-01 22:23:14 UTC

interesting

2017-11-01 22:23:26 UTC

It decribes normal people

2017-11-01 22:23:35 UTC

I agree, but it's a spectrum

2017-11-01 22:24:02 UTC

But I think separate from libertarianism because there can be a libertarian strong state

2017-11-01 22:24:19 UTC

Libertarianism is more about policy than structure

2017-11-01 22:24:32 UTC

do you mean the ideal of libertarism or the political party?

2017-11-01 22:25:08 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/375409956930846722/Capture.GIF

2017-11-01 22:25:24 UTC

The idea

2017-11-01 22:25:32 UTC

The party is laughable imo

2017-11-01 22:25:52 UTC

America needs an electoral ovehaul

2017-11-01 22:25:53 UTC

Contributes to a misunderstanding of the idea as inherently anarchic

2017-11-01 22:26:38 UTC

You're all weak as fuck.

2017-11-01 22:26:44 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/375410359265394700/8value.png

2017-11-01 22:27:17 UTC

How?

2017-11-01 22:27:21 UTC

Globalist cuck

2017-11-01 22:27:37 UTC

Socialist cuck :^)

2017-11-01 22:27:51 UTC

I'm European so that's normal.

2017-11-01 22:28:00 UTC

Unfortunately

2017-11-01 22:28:05 UTC

I am too

2017-11-01 22:28:20 UTC

And it is wierd to me too

2017-11-01 22:32:07 UTC

This is reaching not respecting property rights level

2017-11-01 22:32:25 UTC

"The market adjusts itself" is like saying god will help you.
My country's proven itself capable of keeping a strong market whilst the state makes sure the companies don't go too far. So I'm a social democratic on that front.

The globalist marker is mostly because I don't inherently have a problem with programs such the EU and open borders but I also still believe in nationalism. That's not something that can be erased.
Although because it bases its survey off the amount of different questions and not the strong-ness of my feelings of the matters it considers me a globalist.

Example, I would consider Catalonia to be free state should it want to.

2017-11-01 22:33:21 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/375412024299094017/Capture9.png

2017-11-01 22:34:56 UTC

What does "open borders" mean?

2017-11-01 22:35:15 UTC

EU Project's open borders.
Or Nordic Council.

2017-11-01 22:35:38 UTC

That's freedom of movement not open borders

2017-11-01 22:35:52 UTC

By that argument the US has open borders

2017-11-01 22:36:17 UTC

Yes.

2017-11-01 22:36:39 UTC

"from each according to his ability, to each according to his need"

2017-11-01 22:36:49 UTC

That is an absurd way to define the term

2017-11-01 22:37:25 UTC

It's an awkward use of word IMO.

2017-11-01 22:37:30 UTC

i think this is one of the most fundamental questions

2017-11-01 22:37:59 UTC

Too vague

2017-11-01 22:37:59 UTC

I even voted Neutral on that.

2017-11-01 22:38:51 UTC

should someones ability determine how hard they work?

2017-11-01 22:40:20 UTC

To be honest we kinda already have that partly.

2017-11-01 22:40:28 UTC

with incentive

2017-11-01 22:40:31 UTC

There really isn't any jobs where you don't make enough to make a living.

2017-11-01 22:40:38 UTC

It's so vague every society has it partly

2017-11-01 22:41:05 UTC

i guess if you break it down to an abtrasct

2017-11-01 22:42:45 UTC

It is inherently abstract

2017-11-01 22:43:04 UTC

ehhhh

2017-11-01 22:43:36 UTC

if you had less and someone has more is it right to take from the one who has more?

2017-11-01 22:44:46 UTC

Still too abstract

2017-11-01 22:45:28 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/375415073692188672/chart.png

2017-11-01 22:45:35 UTC

Not surprising results

2017-11-01 22:48:07 UTC

I generally just view that question as "do I think socialism is a good idea", I know thats simplifying it two much, but I just do that simplicities sake.

2017-11-01 22:48:48 UTC

Yeah I think it leans that way

2017-11-01 22:49:15 UTC

Or just vote neutral.

2017-11-01 22:49:18 UTC

Because it's vague.

2017-11-01 22:50:05 UTC

Socialism doesnt work, Socialist policies can work

2017-11-01 22:50:28 UTC

Basically what social democracy is

2017-11-01 22:50:34 UTC

Sure.

2017-11-01 22:53:22 UTC

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2017-11-01 22:59:57 UTC

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2017-11-01 23:00:30 UTC

kinda late to the party

2017-11-01 23:03:01 UTC

We need to eradicate religion.

2017-11-01 23:03:29 UTC

Cool down the jets there

2017-11-01 23:03:58 UTC

Stalin wanted to eradicate it and see what happened

2017-11-01 23:04:34 UTC

Stalin was a mong though.

2017-11-01 23:04:42 UTC

And I am not equating you

2017-11-01 23:05:10 UTC

It's not really that big of a deal in europe but america has serious religious issues that needs solving.

2017-11-01 23:05:42 UTC

They need more secular attitudes

2017-11-01 23:05:55 UTC

A lot more secular.

2017-11-01 23:06:04 UTC

They're on the same level as radical islam.

2017-11-01 23:06:16 UTC

Not anti-theist but secular

2017-11-01 23:06:24 UTC

Yes.

2017-11-01 23:06:31 UTC

Persecuting anyone is a bad thing.

2017-11-01 23:06:41 UTC

*coughs* Self proclaimed socialists of america *coughs*

2017-11-01 23:18:16 UTC

America is on the same level as radical Islam? You fuckin' what?

2017-11-01 23:41:20 UTC

There are certain schools that teach creationism as equal to evolution.

2017-11-01 23:42:14 UTC

That is a mind blowing false equivalence

2017-11-01 23:43:09 UTC

This is what you are comparing it

2017-11-01 23:43:20 UTC

Sure, it's not ISIS levels of nuttery.
But it's about as religious nutjob you get.

2017-11-01 23:44:32 UTC

Contradictory statements are contradictory

2017-11-01 23:45:05 UTC

Fair.
But it still doesn't make it any less of a problem.

2017-11-01 23:45:56 UTC

It really does

2017-11-01 23:46:27 UTC

Well, less of a problem than you and others make it out to be

2017-11-01 23:47:02 UTC

A problem doesn't become more or less of a problem because it's worse somewhere else in the world.

2017-11-01 23:48:57 UTC

Right.
I might've used some overly harsh words, Brian.
But it's a threat to the fundamentals of western society values still.

It's something that needs to be looked at seriously.

2017-11-01 23:49:06 UTC

And quickly too.

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