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2017-04-11 16:46:50 UTC

well no I don't

2017-04-11 16:46:57 UTC

a sociopath in display

2017-04-11 16:47:16 UTC

is not just mimicking expressions etc, they are actively processing that emotion

2017-04-11 16:47:25 UTC

but cannot appreciate its significance

2017-04-11 16:47:37 UTC

I would speculate some kind of mirror neuron thing going on

2017-04-11 16:47:56 UTC

and sociopaths do genuinely feel anger, resentment, etc.

2017-04-11 16:48:21 UTC

some people who lack affect in near aspergers way are sociopaths, but by no means even a significant minority

2017-04-11 16:48:37 UTC

sociopaths more often than not, process emotions of people going about

2017-04-11 16:48:44 UTC

than do they deal with their own emotional life

2017-04-11 16:48:46 UTC

dont you think ?

2017-04-11 16:48:56 UTC

since manipulations is almost as if their primary concern

2017-04-11 16:49:03 UTC

the idea is the true sociopath cannot deal with their own emotional life

2017-04-11 16:49:13 UTC

or gain any insight into it

2017-04-11 16:49:54 UTC

couple that with inability to feel remorse and you get your 3

2017-04-11 16:49:57 UTC

my idea is that sociopaths should be dealt with according to their actions, if any deviant behaviors they display

2017-04-11 16:50:02 UTC

it isn't based off of a collective spirit

2017-04-11 16:50:04 UTC

as if they are a fact of life just as any other

2017-04-11 16:50:09 UTC

that isn't what stops people from doing bad shit generally either

2017-04-11 16:50:12 UTC

except like, Chinese people

2017-04-11 16:50:17 UTC

and even there, it's a layer on top

2017-04-11 16:50:34 UTC

No, I was talking about their destructiveness

2017-04-11 16:50:47 UTC

A sociopath isn't destructive because he feels no empathy

2017-04-11 16:50:56 UTC

They will more easily be destructive towards society, since they don't consider people or property as of having a value greater than utilitarian

2017-04-11 16:51:08 UTC

but because he fears no consequence

2017-04-11 16:51:13 UTC

yeah, that's reasonable

2017-04-11 16:51:13 UTC

no sense of "sacred"

2017-04-11 16:51:24 UTC

anyway, the idea is

2017-04-11 16:51:33 UTC

and i almos forgot

2017-04-11 16:51:33 UTC

a true sociopath would be unable to produce genuine music

2017-04-11 16:51:58 UTC

so I'm looking for something that could contradict that because I don't think it would be too hard to find music by a sociopath

2017-04-11 16:52:00 UTC

their obliviousness to danger almost as a rule comes from their huge self-confidence and sense of infallibility, which they find difficult to overcome

2017-04-11 16:52:01 UTC

I could be wrong

2017-04-11 16:52:12 UTC

i.e. huge ego

2017-04-11 16:52:12 UTC

yeah, because every sociopath is a narcissist

2017-04-11 16:52:14 UTC

by definition

2017-04-11 16:52:22 UTC

likely due to the causation

2017-04-11 16:53:00 UTC

actually I have some evolving views here, about the whole thing, but I don't know where that's going to go right now

2017-04-11 16:53:31 UTC

everyone knows what a sociopath is, no one knows what a sociopath is

2017-04-11 16:53:50 UTC

but yeah, music

2017-04-11 16:54:15 UTC

the idea is, music is deeply appealing because it resonates with the true self

2017-04-11 16:54:23 UTC

"touches the heart" you could say

2017-04-11 16:54:30 UTC

good music I mean

2017-04-11 16:56:39 UTC

will catch up with this later

2017-04-11 16:56:43 UTC

gtg shop some groceries

2017-04-11 17:55:23 UTC

I found new sources of fat, food cost now down to $2/day

2017-04-11 17:55:37 UTC

61 dollars a month

2017-04-11 17:57:24 UTC

my investments pay for almost 10 times cost of food

2017-04-11 18:01:02 UTC

american christians really are revolting subhumans. I got a lecture in mental health concepts in different cultures, most of it being focused on perceived diseases according to folk definitions in different cultures, and it said whites in the american south actually believe in witchcraft and hexes

2017-04-11 18:05:32 UTC

Faith of the American frontier, is one primitive, dumbed down, sensual worldview of sub-tropical areas

2017-04-11 18:05:43 UTC

And betrays the spirit of the negro villages at every corner

2017-04-11 18:06:05 UTC

American spirituality has had it's more high points, for example Unitarianism before it was pozzed

2017-04-11 18:07:06 UTC

But Quakerism, Baptism, etc. are basically, with differences in assumed aesthetical appearanec (though sometimes even here as well) , are basically negro spiritualities adjusted to immediate suburban needs

2017-04-11 18:07:19 UTC

amish are impressive

2017-04-11 18:07:26 UTC

they are full nordic

2017-04-11 18:08:07 UTC

the way quakers shake for example

2017-04-11 18:08:21 UTC

it's nothing but a direct emulation of dark negro magic rituals

2017-04-11 18:09:31 UTC

Just consider this - we are speaking about religions who were even persecuted by Anglicanism and Presbyterianism, themselves split from Rome

2017-04-11 18:09:43 UTC

These people knew what they were doing

2017-04-11 18:10:01 UTC

Which is itself again, very conflicting and peculiar

2017-04-11 18:10:12 UTC

Because many Southern quakers

2017-04-11 18:10:26 UTC

And other smaller sects of similar theology

2017-04-11 18:10:43 UTC

are composed of people who are physically, 100% Northern in appearance

2017-04-11 18:10:59 UTC

Tall, sturdy, hard working

2017-04-11 18:11:28 UTC

Random image

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/267086373285134338/301418995368722443/index.jpg

2017-04-11 18:11:51 UTC

Yet, even as early as 19th century, they were promoting completely subversive ideas

2017-04-11 18:12:04 UTC

They invented the modern prison for example, which at the time, was a crusade to end all suffering

2017-04-11 18:12:11 UTC

Typical reformism

2017-04-11 18:14:18 UTC

Also, it's hugely important to notice how much these religons were geared towarrds the most strict and most slum-styled sense of conformity and uniformity

2017-04-11 18:16:12 UTC

I think you are quite off base with the negro comparisons

2017-04-11 18:16:32 UTC

Maybe in the south, but not quakers or the frontier

2017-04-11 18:16:37 UTC

No blacks there

2017-04-11 18:16:46 UTC

Blacks are not necessary

2017-04-11 18:16:54 UTC

spiritually they are coal black niggers

2017-04-11 18:17:11 UTC

Involution of the spirit, universally leads towards darker, subterranean forms of spirituality

2017-04-11 18:17:18 UTC

but i emphasized

2017-04-11 18:17:20 UTC

it's conflicting

2017-04-11 18:17:32 UTC

because they as population, were perfectly capable of producing institutions of higher spirit

2017-04-11 18:17:45 UTC

Involution?

2017-04-11 18:17:48 UTC

and they as population, to amazement, were quite pure in their racial composition

2017-04-11 18:18:10 UTC

@devolved in Evolian sense

2017-04-11 18:18:40 UTC

Sounds like you've never actually been to America

2017-04-11 18:18:43 UTC

bunch of bullshit

2017-04-11 18:18:47 UTC

KKK was for example a first organization of Protestant whites which had a more racial and universal doctrine, rather than strictly clerical

2017-04-11 18:18:52 UTC

fine upstanding Anglos

2017-04-11 18:18:55 UTC

even the niggers behave

2017-04-11 18:19:00 UTC

compared to the rest of the US

2017-04-11 18:19:23 UTC

@devolved In terms of "being there" American religions are the most transparent in the entire world

2017-04-11 18:19:33 UTC

Been reading too much Russian anti American propaganda buddy

2017-04-11 18:19:43 UTC

That's a wrong assumption

2017-04-11 18:19:55 UTC

I read Russian writers the least

2017-04-11 18:19:56 UTC

I don't think it comes from that

2017-04-11 18:20:04 UTC

I read 20 times more Americans than Russians

2017-04-11 18:20:14 UTC

do you read Dugin

2017-04-11 18:20:18 UTC

I've read him

2017-04-11 18:20:19 UTC

fallot - "even the niggers behave" - most people do not even know how strange it even is that there are any niggers

2017-04-11 18:20:44 UTC

strange how

2017-04-11 18:21:40 UTC

Every provincial spirituality has, figurativelly speaking, Africa as it's homeland

2017-04-11 18:22:02 UTC

But don't take this literally, I'm not pointing in direction of blacks as a group, or even towards association with them

2017-04-11 18:22:11 UTC

why would there even be niggers in a healthy place

2017-04-11 18:22:35 UTC

they were brought over to do slave labour

2017-04-11 18:22:44 UTC

usual reason

2017-04-11 18:22:57 UTC

Compare ritual, something that tries to establish unity with the higher order

2017-04-11 18:23:21 UTC

And witchcraft, something that attempts to connect with certain energies, either benevolent or not

2017-04-11 18:24:02 UTC

The animosity between Evangelical cults is nothing but animosity between adherents of one school of witchcraft towards the other

2017-04-11 18:24:24 UTC

Again, I'm speaking in general dispositions

2017-04-11 18:24:33 UTC

Understand this with a dose of flexibility

2017-04-11 18:25:00 UTC

You can find as many or more adherents to such a worldview among Catholics or any other group

2017-04-11 18:25:07 UTC

People are like that

2017-04-11 18:25:17 UTC

But I'm speaking more of the general propositions of a particular theology

2017-04-11 18:25:23 UTC

There is not much animosity between evangelicals

2017-04-11 18:25:38 UTC

Unless you're considering Mormons evangelical or something

2017-04-11 18:26:00 UTC

Any groups that take Bible as sole authority

2017-04-11 18:26:19 UTC

Sola fide, Sola scriptura

2017-04-11 18:26:31 UTC

And no high churhiness

2017-04-11 18:30:26 UTC

Obviously, there is no need to elaborate much on how Protestantism in general, starting from Luther, ruined and profaned, or at best, democratized and primitivized everything it touched

2017-04-11 18:31:00 UTC

Starting from it's opposition to existence of the sacral language, Latin, much similar to how Sanskrit for example was sacred to Hindus

2017-04-11 18:32:10 UTC

To it's systematic annihilation of the sacredness and obscurity of the ritual component and it's replacement with "enchanted" flock of gospel preachers

2017-04-11 18:34:23 UTC

there is tons of animosity between christian sects

2017-04-11 18:34:59 UTC

although it's pretty hard to say protestantism was a step down when you realize how dalit the catholic church was from the start

2017-04-11 18:35:06 UTC

pope_foot.jpg

2017-04-11 18:35:43 UTC

it's like the difference between having one big organized tumor vs a million tiny independent tumors

2017-04-11 18:35:47 UTC

either way it's still cancer

2017-04-11 18:35:59 UTC

Protestantism was certanly a step down since it put empasis on preciselly that which was rotten in Christianity, while completely opposing that which was good

2017-04-11 18:36:15 UTC

I don't know if that's true

2017-04-11 18:36:35 UTC

That's the standard evolian tradfag position

2017-04-11 18:36:53 UTC

The more you get to know actual old fashioned protestants, the harder it is to believe

2017-04-11 18:36:58 UTC

@Deleted User 57835c2c Is this for example, a superior thinking to Protestantism, or inferior

2017-04-11 18:37:36 UTC

a catholic exhibiting smartism is still a catholic wog dalit licking nigger feet

2017-04-11 18:37:43 UTC

@devolved I'm not talking about individuals here, who can always act as superior personalities

2017-04-11 18:37:51 UTC

even if their pope was holy and great, it is still their fault southern europe is brown instead of nordic

2017-04-11 18:37:52 UTC

I'm talking about general dispositions of these faiths

2017-04-11 18:38:20 UTC

"me smart me book hard 2 read :)"

2017-04-11 18:38:27 UTC

2smart4u

2017-04-11 18:38:39 UTC

Most of these individuals act more often than not in complete *opposition* to the *SPIRIT* (not necessarily formal requests) of these faiths

2017-04-11 18:38:43 UTC

So what do you think of Mormonism

2017-04-11 18:38:56 UTC

I think brigham young's mormonism is great

2017-04-11 18:39:01 UTC

I am not sure what to make of this modern retardation

2017-04-11 18:39:07 UTC

refugee ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

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canned tuna casserole ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

2017-04-11 18:39:20 UTC

I think that Mormon missionaries should stop looking like a couple of Americans from a mile away

2017-04-11 18:39:37 UTC

brigham young mormonism was basically a whole different religion

2017-04-11 18:39:46 UTC

And by that I mean like a couple of second hand car salesmen

2017-04-11 18:39:59 UTC

Haha

2017-04-11 18:40:06 UTC

I'm not saying Pope was great @Deleted User 57835c2c

2017-04-11 18:40:07 UTC

twinky salesmen

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used gayporn salesmen

2017-04-11 18:40:19 UTC

Are you a polack or what

2017-04-11 18:40:30 UTC

I'm saying that Protestantism made things worse, more difficult, introduced tons of misconceptions and ultimatelly, got everything possible wrong

2017-04-11 18:40:57 UTC

if catholics are dalits and protestants actually managed to make catholicism worse, does that make protestants double dalits?

2017-04-11 18:41:51 UTC

You see, in Catholic times, membership to a certain social caste, did not by definition mean difference in stated religion

2017-04-11 18:42:05 UTC

Catholicism didn't interfere with it

2017-04-11 18:42:18 UTC

Church dogma was that "Every man should have a lord"

2017-04-11 18:42:22 UTC

catholicism does what islam does

2017-04-11 18:42:27 UTC

It wasn't opposed to Aristocracy

2017-04-11 18:42:40 UTC

back then it promoted radical purity in a fashion that made people into hypocrites

2017-04-11 18:42:47 UTC

publicly virtuous and privately drunken whores

2017-04-11 18:42:52 UTC

much like their pedophile priests

2017-04-11 18:43:00 UTC

Yes, zealotry was one of the problems with Catholic doctrine

All that pope commicated was this: "none of the shit we are talking about is grounded in immediate experience. Regular people who mostly live in the immediate should be excluded so we won't have to face the inconvenience and have to deal with it."

2017-04-11 18:43:09 UTC

That was preciselly it's more subtropical attitude

2017-04-11 18:43:35 UTC

maybe that's got to do with the fact that they directly colluded with the Roman government to import POCs

2017-04-11 18:43:47 UTC

thus bringing the subtropics to Europe in the first place

2017-04-11 18:43:55 UTC

But never forget that Catholic Church was way less partisan and proletarian than what came to challenge it

The "depth" of the Bible is the product of abstraction and reason. But ultimately this is all removed a degree or more from the narratives in the Bible. So getting back to the stories gets us back to world we actually experience

2017-04-11 18:45:59 UTC

@vigil#3835 You are giving "depth" the meaning that masses attribute to it, namely, the weight of emotional lessons

2017-04-11 18:46:14 UTC

Or "foresight into achievements of contemporary science" at best

no I'm talking about all the theological fluff behind Catholicism

The stuff that pope is defending against the assault of the layman and his immediate experience

2017-04-11 18:47:26 UTC

I certainly agree that Bible is best read without Catholic dogma in mind

2017-04-11 18:47:37 UTC

But not from the same reason that Atheists do

Atheists read it literally not figuratively as intended

2017-04-11 18:48:31 UTC

Even if they read it figuratively they still don't get it, but neverind

2017-04-11 18:48:54 UTC

That exactly is the point, that every story can be read from many different angles and with many different ambitions in mind

2017-04-11 18:49:11 UTC

Reading and discussing the Bible is best done with somebody who isn't a complete normie

2017-04-11 18:49:54 UTC

You can take a Bible story and contemplate on it from political perspective, from perspective of symbols, from historical perspective, from all these combined

2017-04-11 18:50:06 UTC

From ritual perspective etc

I disagree the Bible is written the way normies think about the world, as figuration

2017-04-11 18:50:51 UTC

the bible is written the way constantine wanted it to be so he could make a cancerously expanding dalit empire

2017-04-11 18:50:59 UTC

and the new testament is probably 75% outright forgery

2017-04-11 18:52:38 UTC

Hmmm I'm always in dilemma about the worth of NT myself

2017-04-11 18:52:43 UTC

Revelations for example

2017-04-11 18:53:00 UTC

Esoteric symbolism in disguise of prophecy

2017-04-11 18:53:28 UTC

Or deranged phantasmagoria of the type of personality which Nietzdche has described as "man of resentment"

2017-04-11 18:53:52 UTC

Saying that you are 100% certain on it's worth wouldn't be appropriate atm

2017-04-11 18:54:29 UTC

I mean, some people are certain and decisive in what they will take from a certain work and what they will dismiss

2017-04-11 18:54:39 UTC

Varg has a simple answer

2017-04-11 18:54:56 UTC

Archaeologically and culturally, Bible isn't *us* hence screw everything written there

2017-04-11 18:55:44 UTC

for some reason I was always quite drawn to the bible

2017-04-11 18:56:08 UTC

I don't know if it's because my family was catholic for generations and generations and it had become congenital, or what

2017-04-11 18:56:42 UTC

It has to draw you to it

2017-04-11 18:56:45 UTC

Think about it

2017-04-11 18:57:12 UTC

It's was written in the era, in the hotspot of mixed cultures and societies, and above all, mixed worldviews and spiritual proportions

2017-04-11 18:57:42 UTC

It describes conflicts, agitation, breakdowns and rises of groups and ideas

2017-04-11 18:58:08 UTC

It gives pages and pages of testimony in politics, religion, society, war

2017-04-11 18:58:29 UTC

It deals with some of the most important societies to have existed, namely, Babylonian, Persian, Egyptian

2017-04-11 18:58:43 UTC

And forces you to read between lines, since you are aware that narrator is being subjective

2017-04-11 18:59:25 UTC

And forces you to take every symbol and study it, since it has got to have had both a significance, and a different meaning than a modern man, due to his separation from such a mode of thinking and speaking, cannot comprehend

2017-04-11 18:59:54 UTC

Even if the worldview of the Bible is to be completely rejected

2017-04-11 19:00:17 UTC

You still have to read it in preciselly in order to study it, and it's participants and their modus operandi

2017-04-11 19:00:19 UTC

that is not even what draws me

2017-04-11 19:00:26 UTC

what draws me in are two books, genesis and revelation

2017-04-11 19:00:43 UTC

if you threw out all of the bible except those, I would not feel personally that I lost much

2017-04-11 19:01:19 UTC

Personally i find the story of Hebrews in Egypt quite intriguing

2017-04-11 19:01:53 UTC

What a great political and social drama, so misread by the general population eager for bedtime stories

most of that is garnish not the meat and potatoes of the story which everyone gets

it's great for hebrews, historians and hobbyists but that's about it.

2017-04-11 20:38:10 UTC

Hebrews in Egypt is a great story. Not only political and social, but also personal drama.

2017-04-11 21:12:23 UTC
2017-04-11 21:12:33 UTC

I dug around a bit because I remembered in the back of my mind

2017-04-11 21:12:51 UTC

if you dig around you can find some prozak posts on there too

2017-04-11 21:13:05 UTC

if I'm not misremembering

2017-04-11 21:16:17 UTC

dauq did i just read

2017-04-11 21:17:26 UTC

an old VNN thread where people try to dox Greg Johnson

2017-04-11 21:17:51 UTC

I'm pretty sure Johnson himself used to post on VNN too

2017-04-11 21:21:08 UTC
2017-04-11 21:21:21 UTC

this may be something you want to check out, I don't know

2017-04-11 21:21:28 UTC

forums are degenerate

2017-04-11 21:21:37 UTC

and people who congregate on them are the worst of the worst

2017-04-11 21:22:00 UTC

what about Discords

2017-04-11 21:22:34 UTC

in all fairness, VNN was full of humourless nazi fetishists

2017-04-11 21:22:49 UTC

who always tried to signal their hardness

2017-04-11 21:22:53 UTC

these ten ways sound cool but they reek of "ethno-nationalist" sentiments

2017-04-11 21:23:16 UTC

yeah that's them

2017-04-11 21:23:17 UTC

i.e. history should stop from going on because we said so

2017-04-11 21:23:29 UTC

close all borders and stop everything from happening

2017-04-11 21:23:41 UTC

let me try

2017-04-11 21:23:50 UTC

1. not close, but MAKE BORDERS

2017-04-11 21:23:58 UTC

2. exclude people

2017-04-11 21:24:15 UTC

3. bring about the reign of quality

2017-04-11 21:24:23 UTC

how to enforce

2017-04-11 21:24:43 UTC

4. shut down all revolutionary and democratic activities

2017-04-11 21:24:55 UTC

5. scale back industry

2017-04-11 21:25:04 UTC

I really doubt hunter Wallace is gay in any way

2017-04-11 21:25:05 UTC

6. dalit grinder

2017-04-11 21:25:16 UTC

He's a sensible southern man

2017-04-11 21:25:37 UTC

yeah I was just looking around

2017-04-11 21:26:05 UTC

7. reduce tolerance

2017-04-11 21:26:31 UTC

7 sounds good

2017-04-11 21:26:37 UTC

I mean you can stop there

2017-04-11 21:26:51 UTC

I am so glad this wasn't a post about 25 things

2017-04-11 21:27:35 UTC

Expectations: Subhumanity won't ruin everything it touches

2017-04-11 21:27:45 UTC

Reality: Subhumanity ruins everything it touches

2017-04-11 21:29:44 UTC

tell me how you feel @devolved

2017-04-11 21:30:03 UTC

I can sense a desire to interject

2017-04-11 21:33:56 UTC

Yeah but I'm doing other things

2017-04-11 21:34:45 UTC

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