Message from @༺པརབྱར།བསངཇ༻
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Are you a polack or what
I'm saying that Protestantism made things worse, more difficult, introduced tons of misconceptions and ultimatelly, got everything possible wrong
if catholics are dalits and protestants actually managed to make catholicism worse, does that make protestants double dalits?
You see, in Catholic times, membership to a certain social caste, did not by definition mean difference in stated religion
Catholicism didn't interfere with it
Church dogma was that "Every man should have a lord"
catholicism does what islam does
It wasn't opposed to Aristocracy
back then it promoted radical purity in a fashion that made people into hypocrites
publicly virtuous and privately drunken whores
much like their pedophile priests
Yes, zealotry was one of the problems with Catholic doctrine
All that pope commicated was this: "none of the shit we are talking about is grounded in immediate experience. Regular people who mostly live in the immediate should be excluded so we won't have to face the inconvenience and have to deal with it."
That was preciselly it's more subtropical attitude
maybe that's got to do with the fact that they directly colluded with the Roman government to import POCs
thus bringing the subtropics to Europe in the first place
But never forget that Catholic Church was way less partisan and proletarian than what came to challenge it
The "depth" of the Bible is the product of abstraction and reason. But ultimately this is all removed a degree or more from the narratives in the Bible. So getting back to the stories gets us back to world we actually experience
@vigil#3835 You are giving "depth" the meaning that masses attribute to it, namely, the weight of emotional lessons
Or "foresight into achievements of contemporary science" at best
The stuff that pope is defending against the assault of the layman and his immediate experience
I certainly agree that Bible is best read without Catholic dogma in mind
But not from the same reason that Atheists do
Atheists read it literally not figuratively as intended
Even if they read it figuratively they still don't get it, but neverind
Yeah it's besides the point
That exactly is the point, that every story can be read from many different angles and with many different ambitions in mind
Reading and discussing the Bible is best done with somebody who isn't a complete normie
You can take a Bible story and contemplate on it from political perspective, from perspective of symbols, from historical perspective, from all these combined
From ritual perspective etc
I disagree the Bible is written the way normies think about the world, as figuration
the bible is written the way constantine wanted it to be so he could make a cancerously expanding dalit empire
and the new testament is probably 75% outright forgery
Hmmm I'm always in dilemma about the worth of NT myself
Revelations for example
Esoteric symbolism in disguise of prophecy
Or deranged phantasmagoria of the type of personality which Nietzdche has described as "man of resentment"
Saying that you are 100% certain on it's worth wouldn't be appropriate atm
I mean, some people are certain and decisive in what they will take from a certain work and what they will dismiss
Varg has a simple answer