Message from @The Enlightened Shepherd

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2017-04-11 18:48:42 UTC  

Yeah it's besides the point

2017-04-11 18:48:54 UTC  

That exactly is the point, that every story can be read from many different angles and with many different ambitions in mind

2017-04-11 18:49:11 UTC  

Reading and discussing the Bible is best done with somebody who isn't a complete normie

2017-04-11 18:49:54 UTC  

You can take a Bible story and contemplate on it from political perspective, from perspective of symbols, from historical perspective, from all these combined

2017-04-11 18:50:06 UTC  

From ritual perspective etc

2017-04-11 18:50:22 UTC  

I disagree the Bible is written the way normies think about the world, as figuration

2017-04-11 18:50:51 UTC  

the bible is written the way constantine wanted it to be so he could make a cancerously expanding dalit empire

2017-04-11 18:50:59 UTC  

and the new testament is probably 75% outright forgery

2017-04-11 18:52:38 UTC  

Hmmm I'm always in dilemma about the worth of NT myself

2017-04-11 18:52:43 UTC  

Revelations for example

2017-04-11 18:53:00 UTC  

Esoteric symbolism in disguise of prophecy

2017-04-11 18:53:28 UTC  

Or deranged phantasmagoria of the type of personality which Nietzdche has described as "man of resentment"

2017-04-11 18:53:52 UTC  

Saying that you are 100% certain on it's worth wouldn't be appropriate atm

2017-04-11 18:54:29 UTC  

I mean, some people are certain and decisive in what they will take from a certain work and what they will dismiss

2017-04-11 18:54:39 UTC  

Varg has a simple answer

2017-04-11 18:54:56 UTC  

Archaeologically and culturally, Bible isn't *us* hence screw everything written there

2017-04-11 18:55:44 UTC  

for some reason I was always quite drawn to the bible

2017-04-11 18:56:08 UTC  

I don't know if it's because my family was catholic for generations and generations and it had become congenital, or what

2017-04-11 18:56:42 UTC  

It has to draw you to it

2017-04-11 18:56:45 UTC  

Think about it

2017-04-11 18:57:12 UTC  

It's was written in the era, in the hotspot of mixed cultures and societies, and above all, mixed worldviews and spiritual proportions

2017-04-11 18:57:42 UTC  

It describes conflicts, agitation, breakdowns and rises of groups and ideas

2017-04-11 18:58:08 UTC  

It gives pages and pages of testimony in politics, religion, society, war

2017-04-11 18:58:29 UTC  

It deals with some of the most important societies to have existed, namely, Babylonian, Persian, Egyptian

2017-04-11 18:58:43 UTC  

And forces you to read between lines, since you are aware that narrator is being subjective

2017-04-11 18:59:25 UTC  

And forces you to take every symbol and study it, since it has got to have had both a significance, and a different meaning than a modern man, due to his separation from such a mode of thinking and speaking, cannot comprehend

2017-04-11 18:59:54 UTC  

Even if the worldview of the Bible is to be completely rejected

2017-04-11 19:00:17 UTC  

You still have to read it in preciselly in order to study it, and it's participants and their modus operandi

2017-04-11 19:00:19 UTC  

that is not even what draws me

2017-04-11 19:00:26 UTC  

what draws me in are two books, genesis and revelation

2017-04-11 19:00:43 UTC  

if you threw out all of the bible except those, I would not feel personally that I lost much

2017-04-11 19:01:19 UTC  

Personally i find the story of Hebrews in Egypt quite intriguing

2017-04-11 19:01:53 UTC  

What a great political and social drama, so misread by the general population eager for bedtime stories

2017-04-11 19:23:10 UTC  

most of that is garnish not the meat and potatoes of the story which everyone gets

2017-04-11 19:27:03 UTC  

it's great for hebrews, historians and hobbyists but that's about it.

2017-04-11 20:38:10 UTC  

Hebrews in Egypt is a great story. Not only political and social, but also personal drama.

2017-04-11 21:12:23 UTC  
2017-04-11 21:12:33 UTC  

I dug around a bit because I remembered in the back of my mind

2017-04-11 21:12:51 UTC  

if you dig around you can find some prozak posts on there too

2017-04-11 21:13:05 UTC  

if I'm not misremembering