Message from @fallot

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2017-04-11 16:45:56 UTC  

both are indeed qualities possessed by the sociopath

2017-04-11 16:46:08 UTC  

except 1

2017-04-11 16:46:12 UTC  

needs a bit more nuance

2017-04-11 16:46:20 UTC  

a sociopath may be very capable indeed at displaying human emotions

2017-04-11 16:46:28 UTC  

3. Due to the above, and other cumulative effects, inclination towards destructive, violent behaviors (due to inability to perceive any sense of collective)

2017-04-11 16:46:42 UTC  

by displaying you mean faking

2017-04-11 16:46:44 UTC  

more consequence than collective

2017-04-11 16:46:50 UTC  

well no I don't

2017-04-11 16:46:57 UTC  

a sociopath in display

2017-04-11 16:47:16 UTC  

is not just mimicking expressions etc, they are actively processing that emotion

2017-04-11 16:47:25 UTC  

but cannot appreciate its significance

2017-04-11 16:47:37 UTC  

I would speculate some kind of mirror neuron thing going on

2017-04-11 16:47:56 UTC  

and sociopaths do genuinely feel anger, resentment, etc.

2017-04-11 16:48:21 UTC  

some people who lack affect in near aspergers way are sociopaths, but by no means even a significant minority

2017-04-11 16:48:37 UTC  

sociopaths more often than not, process emotions of people going about

2017-04-11 16:48:44 UTC  

than do they deal with their own emotional life

2017-04-11 16:48:46 UTC  

dont you think ?

2017-04-11 16:48:56 UTC  

since manipulations is almost as if their primary concern

2017-04-11 16:49:03 UTC  

the idea is the true sociopath cannot deal with their own emotional life

2017-04-11 16:49:13 UTC  

or gain any insight into it

2017-04-11 16:49:54 UTC  

couple that with inability to feel remorse and you get your 3

2017-04-11 16:49:57 UTC  

my idea is that sociopaths should be dealt with according to their actions, if any deviant behaviors they display

2017-04-11 16:50:02 UTC  

it isn't based off of a collective spirit

2017-04-11 16:50:04 UTC  

as if they are a fact of life just as any other

2017-04-11 16:50:09 UTC  

that isn't what stops people from doing bad shit generally either

2017-04-11 16:50:12 UTC  

except like, Chinese people

2017-04-11 16:50:17 UTC  

and even there, it's a layer on top

2017-04-11 16:50:34 UTC  

No, I was talking about their destructiveness

2017-04-11 16:50:47 UTC  

A sociopath isn't destructive because he feels no empathy

2017-04-11 16:50:56 UTC  

They will more easily be destructive towards society, since they don't consider people or property as of having a value greater than utilitarian

2017-04-11 16:51:08 UTC  

but because he fears no consequence

2017-04-11 16:51:13 UTC  

yeah, that's reasonable

2017-04-11 16:51:13 UTC  

no sense of "sacred"

2017-04-11 16:51:24 UTC  

anyway, the idea is

2017-04-11 16:51:33 UTC  

and i almos forgot

2017-04-11 16:51:33 UTC  

a true sociopath would be unable to produce genuine music

2017-04-11 16:51:58 UTC  

so I'm looking for something that could contradict that because I don't think it would be too hard to find music by a sociopath

2017-04-11 16:52:00 UTC  

their obliviousness to danger almost as a rule comes from their huge self-confidence and sense of infallibility, which they find difficult to overcome

2017-04-11 16:52:01 UTC  

I could be wrong

2017-04-11 16:52:12 UTC  

i.e. huge ego

2017-04-11 16:52:12 UTC  

yeah, because every sociopath is a narcissist