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2018-03-21 02:00:05 UTC

That's autism

2018-03-21 02:00:07 UTC

peaceful protests are cool

2018-03-21 02:00:11 UTC

they do not do that tho

2018-03-21 02:00:13 UTC

u right

2018-03-21 02:00:19 UTC

No but Im sure one big enough can

2018-03-21 02:00:29 UTC

It has potential

2018-03-21 02:00:36 UTC

The state as an entity is the monopolization of "legitimate" force in the preservation of itself

2018-03-21 02:00:41 UTC

if you got 100% of the workers in america to strike at once

2018-03-21 02:00:44 UTC

what would happen

2018-03-21 02:00:47 UTC

You protest for the destruction of it, it use a force for its defense

2018-03-21 02:00:48 UTC

hypothetically

2018-03-21 02:00:52 UTC

Then you lose

2018-03-21 02:00:58 UTC

Eitherway there are other ways of abolishing the state without violent means

2018-03-21 02:01:07 UTC

There is no realm in which you can peace your way abolishing the state

2018-03-21 02:01:15 UTC

Except this one

2018-03-21 02:01:17 UTC

They physically dont exist

2018-03-21 02:01:21 UTC

At all

2018-03-21 02:01:22 UTC

It does

2018-03-21 02:01:23 UTC

@prior A general strike can do some damage until the tanks roll in.

2018-03-21 02:01:27 UTC

lol

2018-03-21 02:01:30 UTC

you right

2018-03-21 02:01:31 UTC

No it literally doesn't exist and has never happened

2018-03-21 02:01:35 UTC

but what if it was

2018-03-21 02:01:40 UTC

Doesnt mean it wont ever

2018-03-21 02:01:42 UTC

all the workers in america

2018-03-21 02:01:43 UTC

at once

2018-03-21 02:01:45 UTC

Yes it does

2018-03-21 02:01:49 UTC

How?

2018-03-21 02:01:50 UTC

like not saying that would ever happen

2018-03-21 02:01:59 UTC

If it hasn't happened a single time in the entirety of human history

2018-03-21 02:02:04 UTC

Its not gonna happen now.

2018-03-21 02:02:04 UTC

And?

2018-03-21 02:02:07 UTC

Why?

2018-03-21 02:02:15 UTC

Because its antithetical to the purpose of the state

2018-03-21 02:02:15 UTC

We only went to the moon a handful of times

2018-03-21 02:02:20 UTC

People thought it impossible

2018-03-21 02:02:27 UTC

The state in and of itself is an embodiment of violence

2018-03-21 02:02:28 UTC

but humans amazed themselves

2018-03-21 02:02:47 UTC

How it shows it existence

2018-03-21 02:02:50 UTC

Is violence

2018-03-21 02:02:55 UTC

Just because something is violent doesnt mean you have to fight fire with fire

2018-03-21 02:02:57 UTC

It responds, via violence

2018-03-21 02:03:07 UTC

because chances are you'd lose

2018-03-21 02:03:10 UTC

It means you will eventually be drawn to violence

2018-03-21 02:03:13 UTC

Just look at happened with the general strikes in France. 11 million workers. They ended up getting shut down by the military.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_1968_events_in_France

2018-03-21 02:03:26 UTC

Not if you know an alternate solution

2018-03-21 02:03:49 UTC

The only time transitions happen is when enough of the population is either onboard and indifferent, and the military doesn't find common cause with the state

2018-03-21 02:03:54 UTC

There are no alternate options

2018-03-21 02:04:01 UTC

You're positing something that doesn't exist

2018-03-21 02:04:12 UTC

Doesnt mean it wont

2018-03-21 02:04:36 UTC

Only it does

2018-03-21 02:04:41 UTC

Given the nature of opposing a state

2018-03-21 02:04:49 UTC

It will inevitably respond to you with violence

2018-03-21 02:05:06 UTC

And either you stop your "peaceful" destruction of the state, or you die

2018-03-21 02:05:09 UTC

Unless you fight it.

2018-03-21 02:05:12 UTC

Someone with a good imagination would have a peaceful solution

2018-03-21 02:05:18 UTC

No, they wouldn't

2018-03-21 02:05:20 UTC

without the need of fighting

2018-03-21 02:05:36 UTC

Even if they protested and someone else jumped in to fight them on their behalf

2018-03-21 02:05:38 UTC

I disagree. We can do it without the need to fight.

2018-03-21 02:05:40 UTC

Its a matter of violence

2018-03-21 02:05:48 UTC

You can disagree, but you're wrong

2018-03-21 02:05:48 UTC

Plenty of imaginative people have peaceful solutions to problems they don't understand.

2018-03-21 02:05:53 UTC

I disagree

2018-03-21 02:05:55 UTC

It hasn't and won't happen

2018-03-21 02:06:21 UTC

@Deleted User Im talking about those who do understand it though

2018-03-21 02:06:30 UTC

What's stopping us?

2018-03-21 02:06:30 UTC

And having an imagination doesn't somehow give you credence to peacefully topple a state

2018-03-21 02:06:36 UTC

You've ascribed an arbitrary value

2018-03-21 02:06:40 UTC

How isnt it?

2018-03-21 02:06:42 UTC

To something not at all arbitrary

2018-03-21 02:07:00 UTC

Stop asking questions, you said it did have something to do with it

2018-03-21 02:07:05 UTC

@Mr. X If they understood the problem then they wouldn't be proposing unworkable solutions.

2018-03-21 02:07:11 UTC

So prove it

2018-03-21 02:07:23 UTC

And keep in mind the formula for toppling states exists, is taught,

2018-03-21 02:07:37 UTC

It isnt something people imagine in every random case

2018-03-21 02:07:49 UTC

Why? Because its not a matter of imagination >.>

2018-03-21 02:08:05 UTC

@Deleted User No but one will and one might work

2018-03-21 02:08:10 UTC

No it is

2018-03-21 02:08:18 UTC

Planning has everything to do with imagination

2018-03-21 02:08:29 UTC

well not everything but a lot atleast

2018-03-21 02:08:45 UTC

Still ascribing random values

2018-03-21 02:08:50 UTC

To things that aren't random at all

2018-03-21 02:09:14 UTC

Sure but I'll be surprised

2018-03-21 02:09:25 UTC

I dont see why you are doing this and ask that you stop. There is nothing explicit about toppling a state that means your have to have imagination

2018-03-21 02:09:29 UTC

i ama agay

2018-03-21 02:09:42 UTC

@Mr. X How can you make such an assumption?

2018-03-21 02:09:44 UTC

And having imagination doesn't somehow intrinsically mean you can do it peacefully

2018-03-21 02:10:04 UTC

@Deleted User Because its a matter of chance and humanity

2018-03-21 02:10:08 UTC

You're asserting the impossible in an abstract vacuum in which you deny the very nature of the state

2018-03-21 02:10:16 UTC

Y u do dis

2018-03-21 02:10:18 UTC

and imagination of course

2018-03-21 02:10:38 UTC

Im not denying what you think is the state

2018-03-21 02:10:57 UTC

Not what I think is the state, what the state is,

2018-03-21 02:10:59 UTC

And you are.

2018-03-21 02:11:14 UTC

No.

2018-03-21 02:11:17 UTC

I didnt disagree

2018-03-21 02:11:25 UTC

@Mr. X What does that even mean? It means nothing.

2018-03-21 02:11:35 UTC

I only disagreed to what little power you think people hold compared to the state

2018-03-21 02:11:45 UTC

@Deleted User I disagree. It means a lot

2018-03-21 02:11:57 UTC

I dont think they hold little power, I said that power isnt of a nonviolent nature.

2018-03-21 02:12:01 UTC

@Mr. X I don't think he believes that people have little power.

2018-03-21 02:12:07 UTC

Because it isn't, and never has been.

2018-03-21 02:12:09 UTC

I disagree

2018-03-21 02:12:24 UTC

I believe he is trying to say that the method you're championing has little power.

2018-03-21 02:12:25 UTC

Yes but you're wrong lmao

2018-03-21 02:12:30 UTC

If attacking people is your only power then you have little power

2018-03-21 02:12:43 UTC

So the state has little power?

2018-03-21 02:12:47 UTC

Really?

2018-03-21 02:12:49 UTC

@Deleted User Maybe, but its a good alternative

2018-03-21 02:12:53 UTC

No

2018-03-21 02:13:04 UTC

That's what you've just articulated

2018-03-21 02:13:07 UTC

well compared to the people yes

2018-03-21 02:13:14 UTC

Lmao

2018-03-21 02:13:22 UTC

Shenanigans

2018-03-21 02:13:38 UTC

@Mr. X You need to read "State and Revolution".

2018-03-21 02:13:50 UTC

No.

2018-03-21 02:14:39 UTC

Suit yourself. You're missing out. Plenty of non-Marxists would agree.

2018-03-21 02:14:51 UTC

Good for them.

2018-03-21 02:15:12 UTC

I just disagree with them.

2018-03-21 02:16:08 UTC

@Mr. X You would learn a lot from it.

2018-03-21 02:16:12 UTC

It's free online.

2018-03-21 02:20:46 UTC

I do not agree with such ideas.

2018-03-21 02:21:18 UTC

But atleast now I see why you don't believe me.

2018-03-21 02:21:22 UTC

How unfortunate.

2018-03-21 02:23:23 UTC

Superiority complex x10

2018-03-21 02:23:43 UTC

God*

2018-03-21 02:24:08 UTC

@Mr. X You don't agree? I figured that. Your opinions on the state are of little to no value.

2018-03-21 02:24:10 UTC

I am god.

2018-03-21 02:24:34 UTC

You don't even know how it functions.

2018-03-21 02:24:35 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/425842129517019136/aXm4169xjU.png

2018-03-21 02:24:38 UTC

@Deleted User I disagree.

2018-03-21 02:25:57 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/425842472577400833/aXm1129xjU.png

2018-03-21 02:28:34 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/425843132555591680/sense.PNG

2018-03-21 02:28:37 UTC
2018-03-21 02:29:24 UTC

what?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/425843342492958720/whatd.PNG

2018-03-21 02:30:55 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/425843723503534082/yesd.PNG

2018-03-21 02:32:47 UTC

@buyXRBpls stop fucking with the AI

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/425844191067766794/buy.PNG

2018-03-21 02:34:34 UTC

Fuck hitler hes a bitch Im glad hes dead. But dont kill the dude

2018-03-21 02:36:27 UTC

Stroke?

2018-03-21 02:37:05 UTC

Nope

2018-03-21 02:37:14 UTC

Sex?

2018-03-21 02:41:08 UTC

No

2018-03-21 02:54:03 UTC

Worthless piece of shit

2018-03-21 02:54:07 UTC

Fuck you die

2018-03-21 02:58:10 UTC

No

2018-03-21 02:58:40 UTC

u first

2018-03-21 03:18:59 UTC

Stop watching porn

2018-03-21 03:20:25 UTC

Yeah dude fucking stop

2018-03-21 03:50:31 UTC

me

2018-03-21 04:01:21 UTC

Me

2018-03-21 04:13:44 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/425869597581901834/image.png

2018-03-21 04:27:17 UTC

gg

2018-03-21 04:35:23 UTC

no re

2018-03-21 05:16:39 UTC

True actually

2018-03-21 05:47:19 UTC

bj anyone

2018-03-21 05:47:26 UTC

give me one

2018-03-21 06:41:27 UTC

Daily reminder that north Korea was a failure and the communist jews together with the capitalist jews orchestrated the downfall of the morden world

2018-03-21 06:47:08 UTC

this is why we need MARXISM

2018-03-21 07:01:34 UTC

@Deleted User gay nigger

2018-03-21 07:05:42 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/425912873441558528/Gun_Gang_TimeForYouToGetTheFuckOut.png

2018-03-21 07:15:30 UTC

Faggot jew nigger lover @buyXRBpls

2018-03-21 07:52:04 UTC

Hello my follow Americans.

2018-03-21 08:55:43 UTC

True

2018-03-21 10:03:55 UTC

@Bill Clintonโœ“แต›แต‰สณโฑแถ โฑแต‰แตˆ#1787 Mr President.

2018-03-21 10:29:57 UTC

fuck off bill

2018-03-21 10:30:21 UTC

go give nukes to rogue dictatorships somewhere else

2018-03-21 16:51:21 UTC

Bill please kill your wife

2018-03-21 17:04:45 UTC

Best. Comics. Ever. Dis shit be lit, BoJeet hit the yeet.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/426063629700431873/250px-All-Negro_Comics_1.jpg

2018-03-21 17:10:00 UTC

@Deleted User open bobs nd show vagene

2018-03-21 17:12:30 UTC

OPEN BOB

2018-03-21 17:12:42 UTC

open bobs nd show vagena

2018-03-21 17:13:09 UTC

Y'all niggas not sayin shit wtfu

2018-03-21 17:15:18 UTC

#jews

2018-03-21 17:15:51 UTC

@everyone Is anyone here to piss off?

2018-03-21 17:16:51 UTC

k

2018-03-21 17:48:48 UTC

I am here

2018-03-21 17:48:50 UTC

piss me off

2018-03-21 17:49:49 UTC

go back to reddit

2018-03-21 17:49:59 UTC

Never been on reddit you anime fag

2018-03-21 17:50:08 UTC

sure

2018-03-21 17:50:23 UTC

ty

2018-03-21 18:37:14 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/426086904572674048/image.png

2018-03-21 19:32:44 UTC

What

2018-03-21 19:38:53 UTC

Iโ€™d read all negro comics tbh

2018-03-21 19:39:23 UTC

Too much black hurt my eyes

2018-03-21 19:41:35 UTC

Thatโ€™s kinda gay

2018-03-21 19:55:51 UTC

@Deleted User You are not Korean.

2018-03-21 20:16:31 UTC

Lol yeah @buyXRBpls you're the dumb commie kid

2018-03-21 20:17:08 UTC

Jk he aint dumb he's just Born in the wrong era and place

2018-03-21 20:17:23 UTC

He'd do good as stalin's kid which means he'd be shit

2018-03-21 20:17:33 UTC

as a leader

2018-03-21 20:19:08 UTC

o he lef

2018-03-21 20:37:33 UTC

RIP

2018-03-21 20:37:49 UTC

the reblog meme scared him off

2018-03-21 20:38:39 UTC
2018-03-21 20:39:21 UTC

Le franรงais ๐Ÿ˜ฑ

2018-03-21 20:39:43 UTC

C'est le langue des anarchistes

2018-03-21 20:40:06 UTC

thanks @Mr.E#2794 ๐Ÿ˜Š

2018-03-21 20:40:12 UTC

he left

2018-03-21 20:40:27 UTC

what a tease

2018-03-21 20:41:46 UTC

I didnt leave, the @ing is fucked for some reason

2018-03-21 20:46:00 UTC

@Deleted User what would I be then?

2018-03-21 20:53:08 UTC

@Mr.E#2794

2018-03-21 20:53:10 UTC

gey

2018-03-21 20:57:27 UTC

How?

2018-03-21 20:58:00 UTC

@Deleted User A nazi sympathizer

2018-03-21 20:59:01 UTC

capitalism isn't bad either jackass, communism and socialism and fascism is.

2018-03-21 21:09:58 UTC
2018-03-21 21:10:32 UTC

capitalism not bad because it helps me ๐Ÿ˜Ž

2018-03-21 21:10:36 UTC

Big brane

2018-03-21 21:10:50 UTC

Please have sex with me

2018-03-21 21:11:09 UTC

No.

2018-03-21 21:11:21 UTC

Capitalism isn't bad because it helps everyone.

2018-03-21 21:11:40 UTC

@Deleted User I dunno but that avatar is definitely not very Korean.

2018-03-21 21:11:50 UTC

its him

2018-03-21 21:11:57 UTC

He's a trap

2018-03-21 21:12:25 UTC

Are you commies and nazis still arguing? You do realize you're both equally retarded and wrong?

2018-03-21 21:12:32 UTC

Right?

2018-03-21 21:14:43 UTC

Yes, if Mr. E the Wise says you're wrong then it must be true. After all, any man that would sit idly by as his wife and children fall victim to a home invasion turned homicide out of a reluctance to "judge" is clearly a deep thinker.

2018-03-21 21:15:38 UTC

Home invasion turned homicide? What are you talking about?

2018-03-21 21:16:05 UTC

I'm talking about your broken moral compass and your blind faith in "rehabilitative justice".

2018-03-21 21:16:45 UTC

Because it works. If I thought it wouldn't work I wouldn't believe in it.

2018-03-21 21:17:04 UTC

Mindless killing is just vengeance

2018-03-21 21:17:18 UTC

Yes the child laborers are benefiting

2018-03-21 21:17:21 UTC

God mode

2018-03-21 21:17:46 UTC

Amazing how your delusions actually make you less moral according to traditional viewpoints shared by various cultures.

2018-03-21 21:17:46 UTC

He is an enlightened liberal

2018-03-21 21:18:10 UTC

He knows all

2018-03-21 21:18:13 UTC

Do not question

2018-03-21 21:18:21 UTC

Child labour is illegal in a lot of capitalist societys nor am I liberal

2018-03-21 21:18:31 UTC

And there's no point when you can just put someone in a room for their whole lives

2018-03-21 21:18:53 UTC

Im not reactionary. Im willing to improve cultures if they need to be improved

2018-03-21 21:18:55 UTC

and a lot do

2018-03-21 21:19:01 UTC

I'd also say you're one sick puppy considering the fact that you would rather perform dangerous neurological experiments on hardened criminals as opposed to them serving a retributive sentence.

2018-03-21 21:19:01 UTC

The what are you fascist? Lol

2018-03-21 21:19:09 UTC

No

2018-03-21 21:19:12 UTC

I don't think you know terms at all

2018-03-21 21:19:37 UTC

Fuckin neoliberals man

2018-03-21 21:19:58 UTC

@Deleted User What is sick about curing and treating the mentally ill while preventing more murder?

2018-03-21 21:20:10 UTC

I'm not a neoliberal either.

2018-03-21 21:20:19 UTC

I used to be a liberal but now I'm not.

2018-03-21 21:20:49 UTC

Then what are you for fucks sake

2018-03-21 21:21:00 UTC

Centrist

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