Just look at happened with the general strikes in France. 11 million workers. They ended up getting shut down by the military.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_1968_events_in_France

Not if you know an alternate solution

The only time transitions happen is when enough of the population is either onboard and indifferent, and the military doesn't find common cause with the state

There are no alternate options

You're positing something that doesn't exist

Doesnt mean it wont

Only it does

Given the nature of opposing a state

It will inevitably respond to you with violence

And either you stop your "peaceful" destruction of the state, or you die

Unless you fight it.

Someone with a good imagination would have a peaceful solution

No, they wouldn't

without the need of fighting

Even if they protested and someone else jumped in to fight them on their behalf

I disagree. We can do it without the need to fight.

Its a matter of violence

You can disagree, but you're wrong

Plenty of imaginative people have peaceful solutions to problems they don't understand.

I disagree

It hasn't and won't happen

@Deleted User Im talking about those who do understand it though

What's stopping us?

And having an imagination doesn't somehow give you credence to peacefully topple a state

You've ascribed an arbitrary value

How isnt it?

To something not at all arbitrary

Stop asking questions, you said it did have something to do with it

@Mr. X If they understood the problem then they wouldn't be proposing unworkable solutions.

So prove it

And keep in mind the formula for toppling states exists, is taught,

It isnt something people imagine in every random case

Why? Because its not a matter of imagination >.>

@Deleted User No but one will and one might work

No it is

Planning has everything to do with imagination

well not everything but a lot atleast

Still ascribing random values

To things that aren't random at all

Sure but I'll be surprised

I dont see why you are doing this and ask that you stop. There is nothing explicit about toppling a state that means your have to have imagination